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31 Aug 2009 19:29:53 IST
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Hey..please tell me iss discussuion ka base kya hai...kya koi important decision liya gaya hai...ya liya jaane waala hai...
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31 Aug 2009 19:44:59 IST
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Mujhe Lagta hai Kapil Sibal ka koi bayan yeh saara bawaal macha raa hai ! ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,agar nahin ......................Toh Phir Aur Kisne Udaai Yeh Afwaah ??
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31 Aug 2009 20:50:17 IST
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i totally agree with this move had it been only maths physics and chemistry i would have relieved stress

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31 Aug 2009 21:33:23 IST
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bekaar ka bahas ho raha hai!!!! jo deserving hai aur really intellegent hai wo iit bhi kar sakta hai aur boards mein bhi no. laa sakta hai!!!!

i want to tell tht thr are also students who qualify jee but not able to secure even 60% in boards!!!! this year thr was a boy who got air rank 174 but he failed in physics in board xams!!!! to bataiye ye kaise ho sakta hai!!!! also let me tell some of u tht in boards teachers r strictly instructed tht they hve to give marks based on ncert!!!! strict checking bas language subjects mein hota hai jaise hindi, english!!!!!

and abt reservations!!!! let me tell all of u tht sc/st reservation has extended for next years!!!! so nothing can be done in terms of tht!!!! agar problem boards hai to bas uske question pattern mein!!!! and if we think this system is wrong thn we must raise voice against it!!! AGAR GOVT hum banate hai to hamara right hai ki is system ke against voice uthaiye!!!! finally main ye fir se yahi kehna chahta hoon ki jo really deserving aur intellegent hota hai wo iit aur boards dono mein achha kar sakta hai!!!!

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1 Sep 2009 11:15:13 IST
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nooo the simple reason is the format of board is such that it encourages rote learning and mugging up.... so basically one who is intelligent but does not have abilities to mug up will be left behind.....so iit loses deserving students
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1 Sep 2009 11:24:32 IST
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Can't agree with you more........

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1 Sep 2009 12:39:23 IST
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hey listen!!!! agar thik se question dekhoge na boards ka to sab ratne waala question nahi hota kuch conceptual hote hai!!!! aise bol rahe ho ki iit ke liye to kuch ratna nahi padta!!!! lekin sab kahoge ki iit mein samajh ke answer kiya jaata hai!!!! then why not in boards!!!! aise hum bhi jaane ki kisme rat na padta hai!!!! in maths there is nothing to mug up!!!! in chemestry u hve mug up something but for chemestry we hve to mug up for iit also!!!! and thn physics!!!! ya thr r derivations which we hve to mug up but derivations could be answered by understanding also!!!!


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1 Sep 2009 12:44:24 IST
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and abt the format of boards!!!! yes i also agree tht it is not up to the mark!!!! so we must raise voice against it!!!!

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1 Sep 2009 13:18:21 IST
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achcha maths main boards se pehle tune kuch na rata..............pakka...............

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1 Sep 2009 16:25:54 IST
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main is saal boards doonga aur aap hi bataiye ki maths mein ratne waali kaun si chiz hai boards mein jo ratein!!!!!!

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1 Sep 2009 16:36:46 IST
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formulae!! lol

i did not feel ki is baar k board exams mein rattne wale questions aaye the!!!

definitely not in physics!!!

and chemistry mein rattne waale sirf reactions hi the!!

in maths?? usmein kya rattne ki cheez thi??? wat are natural numbers??? hahahaha!!!

arre bio mein bhi rattne wala portion kam tha, tum log maths mein rattne ki baat kar rahe ho!!!


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1 Sep 2009 16:49:22 IST
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achha jo bhi ratnein waala baat bol rahe hai!!!!! kya aap sabhi ratnein aur yaad karne mein difference jaante hai????

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1 Sep 2009 18:28:33 IST
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U don't have to exercise your brains in boards that's it, just do the questions from NCERT and the questions in exam will come of the exact same pattern. If u have done NCERT well u will get good marks. While in IIT do any amount of books but u will have to exercise youur brain in the exam for sure.


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1 Sep 2009 19:42:57 IST
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tht's the difference in iit and boards!!!! agar boards aur iit ek hi jaisa ho jaaye  to dono mein difference kya hoga. so tht's my point tht if we r preparing for iit thn we must not hve problem in scoring in boards because it is ncert based

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1 Sep 2009 21:53:43 IST
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 totally disagree.....god knows wat happened to CBSE

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1 Sep 2009 23:24:56 IST
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bhai kaafi intelligent log hain yahan to ..........achcha kabhi wo problems jo APPLICATION OF DERIVATIVES ki miscellaneous main (NCERT Ki), apne aap hui hain kisi se, honestly batana, aur wo estimation k fande in application of derivative........bhai main to ratke gya tha, aur aagey bhi ye hi salaah deta hun nai to pachtaaoge doston................
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1 Sep 2009 23:26:42 IST
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mujhe pata hai sab yahan apne ko INTELLIGENT ka baap dikhayenge abhi, kahenge ki usme ratne ka kya tha, they were very simple, oh anuj tu bhi na gadha hai, unhe bhi koi rat ta hai............par sachai hum sab jaante hain...............................
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2 Sep 2009 00:48:18 IST
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Maine kabhi NCERT Maths ka ek question nain lagaya , ek bhi nahin , theory tak nahin padhee .............. Boards mein 95 paaya .

 

 

Chemistry mein kabhi koi NCERT ka sawaal aankhin ko darsab nahin hua , bas apna concept idhar udhar se banata chala gaya , boards mein 99 mile (70 in theory ) -- School mein har exam mein 33% no. pata tha

 

 

Physics ki kitaab kabhi nahin kholee , aaj bhi naye ki nayee paree hai , bas isi ek kitaab par cover nahin hai mere phir bhi sabse nayee ! boards mein 90 mile .

 

 

Ab koi andaaza laga sakta hai ki -------------------------- " CBSE Board is worse than the CBSE Affiliated Schools " !


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2 Sep 2009 08:30:04 IST
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we can't say tht cbse board is worse than its scul xams!!!! because we know tht in schools which teachers r strict checkers isliye scul mein no. nahi aata!!!! aise bhi scul mein teachers try karte hai ki kam se kam marks de sake so tht we can secure more in boards!!!! and in boards teachers r strictly instructed tht they can't do stict checking!!!! aur boards mein sahi likhiyega to no. to milega hi pura bhale hi aap ncert nahi padhe ho!!!! and all this things is told by my mother as she is also a teacher and has corrected board papers twice!!!!

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2 Sep 2009 11:03:18 IST
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anuj you are correct. main ye hi bolne waali thi ki us mein rattne jaisa kya hai!!! simple logic hai!!! but main ye nahi bol rahi ki aap gadhe hain!! and aapne kaha ki sachchai hum sab jaante hain...hmm.... jo sachchai main jaanti hu wo ye hai ki UN QUESTIONS MEIN KOI RATTNE WAALI CHEEZ NAHI HAI.

in my class, every single student, even the one who got a compartment in maths, solved those question without any problem, maybe that was because we had been taught such problems so well in school. i cannot comment on the situation with teachers of other schools but i guess i was lucky to have atleast some good teachers throughout my schooling.

 

@vinamra vinay: i agree with the point you raised. there IS a difference between mugging up and memorising.!!!




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