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arey ( I THINK) akela ek banda to speech nahi dega na baaki 7 bhi to de sakte hain

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but in the ques it is written specific person
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the ans is B...bt can any1 plz explain in detail

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answer is simply (b).
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Hi
 
 
 
The ans can be b) only if the speaker's are not specified because then we will get 8C2 * 6! =20160
but if the speaker's are specified(i.e selections of the two speakers are not to be made) as given in the question, then the ans would be different
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the ans is definately b
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how??
plz explain.
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Its (b)
 
without any restriction the 8 people can be arranged themselves in 8! ways.
But the number of ways in which A speaks up before B and the number of ways in which B speaks before A together make up 8!. (Number of ways in which A speaking before B is equal to the number of ways  B speaking before A)
 
so the required number of ways=  8!/2 = 20160
 
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thanx a lot!!!!
but could u plz tell where i went wrong.???(my method is on page 1)
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as there are 8 persons
and as one person has to speak before aspecified person his probability is half,
i e 8!/2 = 20160
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hi abijeet
the question says that both A and B are specific.
it means A have to come first and after that it should be B and no one else.
if we go for 7! ways after placing A as you did, it will also include B being some where else.
hope u getting me.
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ok thanks i didnt understand the ques
but if B has to come immediately after A,y cant v do it like this
let A & B be grouped together
now we hav 7 person which can b arranged in 7! ways.
but then the ans comes 5040.what's the mistake?????
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suppose speaker A had to speak before B.The remaining 6 speakers can take any of the 6positions out of total 8.they can be arranged in 6! ways.
 
when A occupies first position,B can occupy any one of the other 7 positions.
Total no.of ways in which A is in post1 and B in other seven is - 7^6!.
 
when Ais in post2,B has 6 posts.remaining are arranged in 6! ways
Total no of ways-6^6!
 
when A is in3 B has 5 posts. total ways-5^6!
 
continuing this way until A is in pos7 and B is in pos8
 
total ways=6!(7+6+5+4+3+2+1)=20160  ansb
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hi
answer should be:- "d"
 
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hi nikhil how is it d
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