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akku
akku is offline comment by akku    (posted on 2 Feb 2008 18:09:00 IST)
heyyyyyyyyy frndsssssssssss be CAREFUL this rule of change of signs
gives the MAXIMUM NO OF +ve/-ve ROOTS

so u CANNOT SAY that there are 2 +ve roots fr 2 conseq changes
in sign in f(x) or 2 -ve roots fr 2 conseq changes in sign in f(-x) but u can say that there WILL be MAXIMUM 2 +ve and 2-ve roots
to illustrate the above statement:

eg: f(x)=x^2+x+1 0 changes in sign so 0+ve roots
f(-x)=x^2-x+1 2 changes in sign=>2 ive roots WHICH IS WRONG
u all must be knowing that f(x) has 2 complex roots w and w^2
ONE CAN ONLY CORRECTLY SAY THAT THELL BE NO +VE ROOTS
IN THE EXAMPLE U HAVE ASKED THE GOIITIANS TO ANS
max no of +ve roots=6
max no of -ve roots=2
no of complex roots=0(sry i cant exactly say whether it wod be max or minm becoz it may vary frm q to q)

SO THE METHOD STATED BY U WILL BE USEFUL TO KNOW IF THERE ARE NO +VE OR NO -VE SOLN IN OBJ QUESTIONS bt it may lead to ERRONEOUS results IF USED OTHERWISE TO KNOW NO OF REAL SOLUTIONS.

SO as a true frnd i wod just say - Himanshu and all the other goiitians pls be very cautious of such shortcuts given in books without their limitations LAY MORE STRESS ON CONCEPTS , such things are not evn mentioned in jee syllabus. NO SUCH QUESTION WILL BE ASKED IN HE EXAM which cannot be solvd using the basic concepts and confining to the constraints of the jee syllabus.
i_love_physics
i_love_physics is offline comment by i_love_physics    (posted on 2 Feb 2008 22:27:22 IST)
the equation ax^2+b*modulous of x+c=0 will hav no real solution if n only if all of abc r positive..it wld hav solutions in othr wise ...for eg 3x^2+(modulous of x)-12 we split it as (3modx-3)(modx+4)=0
wen solving we get x=-1 n 1 ....the reason for ax^2 +modx*b+c has no real solutions wen all a b c are positive is tht...wen such a quadratic equation with all postive coefficents hav negative roots.. in our question d variable is mod x ....mod x cant b negative...tht y no solutions....nice article but i think u explained everything niclyyy...u shld hav added tht all a b c r positive.....oth wise ppl may think its a general rule....nice work anyway...
i_love_physics
i_love_physics is offline comment by i_love_physics    (posted on 2 Feb 2008 22:29:32 IST)
and akku nice work yar... thnx a lott even i m noticing tht noww....thnkk u akku ...
little_genius
little_genius is offline comment by little_genius    (posted on 2 Feb 2008 22:32:21 IST)
this was asked in fiitjee aits
gr8888.........
chimanshu_007
chimanshu_007 is offline comment by chimanshu_007    (posted on 8 Apr 2008 12:23:58 IST)
yeah sorry bout the second part.....this is the condition......given by akku
hats off.....and sorry :(
Shesha
Shesha is offline comment by Shesha    (posted on 8 Apr 2008 15:58:50 IST)
nice one..
nitiagr
nitiagr is offline comment by nitiagr    (posted on 8 Apr 2008 16:35:03 IST)
its really good
thanx
pranay_robot
pranay_robot is offline comment by pranay_robot    (posted on 8 Apr 2008 20:07:25 IST)
thankx brother !!
pranay_robot
pranay_robot is offline comment by pranay_robot    (posted on 8 Apr 2008 20:09:49 IST)
thankx brother !!
dream_iit
dream_iit is offline comment by dream_iit    (posted on 3 Jun 2008 12:03:57 IST)
this type of question came in aieee bro
and thanx to u i got that correct...that 1 solution option
thanx a lot :)
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