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Contest [swordfish #2]: Find ways to select people on circular table
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Sixteen people are arranged around a circular table. Find the no. of ways of selecting seven people so that no two of them are consecutive.


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2 *  8
        C        =       16
           7 
         

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PERMUTATION IS NOT REQUIRED HERE,ONLY COMBINATION CONCEPT IS TO BE USED SINCE WE HAVE TO SELECT 7 PEOPLE AND NOT TO ARRANGE THEM.
 
TO SELECT 7 PEOPLE OUT OF 16 SO THAT NO TWO ARE COMSECUTIVE IS  = 9
        C
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to select 7 people such that none is consecutive would be

First person can occupy any of the 16 chairs
Second person can sit in rest of the 13 chairs
Third in 11, Fourth in 9,Fifth in 7, Sixth in 5 ,proceeding in this way
Therefore total number of ways to sit= 16*13*11*9*7*5*3=2162160

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there are 16 people and 7 have 2 b seleced
there r 9 people left and as the 7 people have not to sit consecutivel so choices
 
10p7 (as 10 gaps)
10!/3!
604800.

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seven people can sit in 8 places as no two persons should be consecutive.
no. of ways=8C7*7P7*2

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10C7
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Suppose that 7 people are sitting round the table(and these are the chosen people)
Make other seven out of nine left to sit between each two.
One will sit anywhere he want.
For, each place where the last one will sit give a different arrangement.
Hence the answer is four due to circular symmetry.
this is the solution, I hope, if all the people are identical
if all the people are different, then this solution can be extended to C(16,7)*C(9,7)*{C(7,2)+C(7,1)}
Anyone has a doubt??
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Since we have to select 7 people out of 16 so that no two are consecutive:-
 
Suppose we take one and select it as 16C1! Now the two immediate to it can't be selected ! Left are 7 which can be selected as they are alternate! therefore we have to select 6 out of them as we have already selected ONE! therefore 7C6
 
Answer is 16C1 * 7C6 = 112
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9C7 must b the answer .we have 16 seats around a table(round).
now it can b thought of as we have to select 7 seats out of the 9 gaps created by seating the remaining 9.
here permutation is not required as persons r fixed on their seats.

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1,3,5,7,9,11,13,
 

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it iis arr 7 vacancies &9 people on round table such that no 2 vacancies r 2gether
 
 
8! * (8c7) * 6!
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swordfish #2 result The solution given by ravitej is correct he deserves a prize
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total no of people to be arranged arround a circular table = 16
no. of ways in which remaining 9 people may be arranged = ( 9 - 1)! = 8!
the other 7 persons may be arranged among themselves in 7! ways.
 
Thus total no. of ways = 8! * 7! = 203212800

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167*7!/2!

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since we have to select 7 ppls frm 16 but no consicutives shoul b selected then

lets start this way
consider a person as the head...
now including the head we have 8 members in which no two are consicutive..
there4 the total no. of ways 4 selection  of 7 ppl frm 8 is
8c7
now the person just next to the head is excluded in the 1st case ,so now lets count him now and the other 7 ppl who were left before , so now again we have 8 members and no 2 of them are consicutive
again the total no of ways to select 7 ppl frm 8 is
8c7
now the case 1 is independable of the case 2 there4

total no of cases will be
 8c7+8c7=2*8c7=2*8c1=16
ans is 16



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