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Hey all,
I want to have a debate sort of thing between us on this topic-
Mahatma Gandhi V/s Bhagat Singh
How many of U think that Mahatma Gandhi's share in helping India to get freedom was more than Bhagat Singh's? Or vice versa?
How many of U believe that ''ahimsa'' is the right tool to snatch our independence from foreign hands? Or do U think that Bhagat Singh's revolutionary ideas are the right tool?
PLZ share with all of us, whom wud U have chosen as ur ideal if U were present in the era of Indian Freedom struggle? And WHY??
P.S.plz dont give replies like ''both are gr8'' or ''both played an imp. role in our freedom struggle''. I agree with this but still, plz choose one who U feel wud have been ur ideal.
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but just coz he was so sticky to his ideas of non violence he delayed freedom which cost us partition n we're still bearing its brunt wid warring nations surrounding us (pakistan n bangladesh)
noo bhai...
u still need 2 get ur facts right.....
our revolution started in 1857.....remeber the sepoy revolt....
remevber d ppl who wer hung , remeber d brutal mass massacre....
and we wuld have won then...had it not been 4 ppl thinking n believing in peace......
coz begging 4 peace when sum1's killing ur ppl..is bu*********
and wat bhagat singh did was not killing....dat's why i said u wer beng naive...wat he did was fire a nation..fire our beliefs.....made us hungry 4 freedom
and in turn made d british fear 4 casulaties...
so picked dere a**es and ran...now u seee freedom...
He is a man of values and i also like to remind you that when gandhiji started non coperation movement, it made a huge impact but he terminated that movement because certain section of people use violence and he said at that time that "indian people are not civilized to get freedom now".
Give me ONE ....yes you heard it right...give me ONE example where violence lead to peace. Do not confuse domination by peace. Peace is where there is no tension and the environment is acceptable by every section without any conflictory feelings.
Did America did it in Vietnam ? or how about Afghanistan ? or Iraq ? Bombing and killing is not a solution. That way everything will perish. Then what do you want freedom for ?
i guess bhagat singh was rite at that point of tym, a bit more denn gandhiji was,it was neede against the britishers at that point of time!!
but gandhij's principles r the 1nes vich matter in the present scenerio coz ppl using voilence against there own country n making dere demands is not the rite thing!!
they shud do this against ppl whu r trying to divide the nation not against common ma
yaar rooney....
lol..ur getting it all wrong.....
i'm talking hre bout d victim n ur talking bout d dominator....
wat america did in vietnam was never justified....what was justified was vietnam fighting bak....
now wuld u calll dere fightbak as violence...if they had beggd 4 peace like ghandi ji...
dey'd been mass murdered by america...par they fought bak..like heroes..tat's wat's freedom...
...just answer me this...
n u'll knw who's right here??
ohh n full respect 2 u yaar
never disrespect ne of my goiitian frnds..
It is a chain reaction. You slap someone . He will slap you back. and it goes on. You might feel good because you feel you are fighting for your rights. But from third person view, you are just fighting forever.
And Violence could not defeat British at that point of time man. What were we at that point of time in terms of force. A 2 crore population france can destroy a 15 crore population Bangladesh. Maybe not now.because of UN and all the cross-country relations but at that point of time, there were very few people British were answerable to.
Violence couldnt work then and it didnt either.
Peace.
moreover, gandhiji was the man who was most respected indian throughout the world next only to swami vivekananda.
with bhagat singh methods we wud never had achieved independence bcoz it was not goin to be achieved by killing a british official !!!!!!!!!!
but dont get me wrong i have a lot of respect for bahgat singh too! & not only he but all those who contributed in our independence in one way or the other
ur running out of ideas bhai.....
dont 4get d britishers wer ngaged in world war.....so dey wer short of resources and patience....
ur gandhian principle...wuld have let them relax..chill..have a lunch in shimla....supper in delhi....n
still write everywhree...
"indians and dogs not allowed"
so plzz dont potray 1 side of the picture....
and all other examples.......talk peace wid talibans....dey'll behead u...
and israel...yaar d palestininas and hamas kill heir people on daily basis...u expect them 2 just shut up n talk peace...
plzzz...nehru ji talked peace..n luk wat happnd..we have lost a part of kashmir 2 pak...
plzzz....just shove ur peace in d dustbin...we have lost so much bcoz of it..
Tell me what Violence has got ?
A Vietnam where there were so many bombs dropped and shells planted, that a massive part of the country was closed for public access due to fear of people going dead. Even today, farmers are dying regularly.
Or Iraq ? Every day 50 people die and terrorists are coming strong again.
Or Afghanistan ? Less the said the better.
Killing might give you the feeling that you are moving forward, but it is never the decisive solution. Just a neutron which keeps on triggering chain reactions. Ultimately, it is peace only which plays the final decisive part. If that were not so, North Korea would be involved in a massive nuclear war with the US. And I doubt we would be sitting here. It is peace only which has prevented the our destruction til now.
It is not a question of proving a point. We should always look at the final picture. And that final picture , going by Violence's side, is going tobe gory and filled up by blood, ours and our enemies'.
well i always believe that we indians cud have never matched the strength of britishers be it their artillery or aircrafts or anything else!!!!!!!!!
& remember wat the britishers did to all those like bhagat singh or chandrashekhar azad or khudi ram bose most of them were hanged to death or they themselves imbraced death & after they were gone nothing more significant cud be done
remember it is always easy to kill a man but very difficult to kill one's ideals & that is why the britishers cud not face gandhi bcoz this was the department were they cud be easily ousted & that was wat gandhiji did!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Those last 3 lines are right on target.
"remember it is always easy to kill a man but very difficult to kill one's ideals & that is why the britishers cud not face gandhi bcoz this was the department were they cud be easily ousted & that was wat gandhiji did!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!''
a) Gujjar Violent Protests
b) Anti Quota Protests (Peaceful)
which materialised n which did not ?
which had greater support ?
had the anti quota ppl done something violent, we wud have 75% General Quota (for the lack of better words)
and it pains to see that by ur statement u r indirectly trying to say ONLY Mr.Gandhi had ideals n principles
its good to walk a long route to ensure that people get salt at low prices, but its great that a person dies,with a smile,for his country.
& remember wat the britishers did to all those like bhagat singh or chandrashekhar azad or khudi ram bose most of them were hanged to death or they themselves imbraced death & after they were gone nothing more significant cud be done
"& remember wat the britishers did to all those like bhagat singh or chandrashekhar azad or khudi ram bose most of them were hanged to death or they themselves imbraced death & after they were gone nothing more significant cud be done"
??
nothing significant cud be done ??
RDB dekha hain ?
kal jaake kuch corrupt politicians ko kisi ne uda diya, tisre din dekho kaise govt ke rules badalte hain
i respect Gandhiji for his ideals n principles but lemme tell u my point of view, it was not gandhiji who got us freedom, neither was it bhagat singh or anyone else, it were the english themselves, had there not been a change of government in great britian after WW2 we wud be independent after a long long time.
but one more thing
1000 ki nahi
500 ki nahi
100 ki nahi
50 ki bhi nahi
atleast 10 rupees ke note par Bhagat Singh ka photo dal diya hota :(
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Our freedom struggle was of 40 years + and Bhagat singh was there for 2 effective years. If you have read history, you will know that it were Gandhian thoughts which pushed British out. Killing 2 policemen in Kanpur and 4 in Vadodra doesnt push a complete empire with 4 million soldiers out.
Maybe you need to grow up.