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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 16 May 2008 12:46:05 IST
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BUT HOW WILL THE MOMENTUM BE CONSERVED HOW DO WE KNOW THAT EXT TORRQUE=0
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 16 May 2008 13:00:06 IST
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oye look.........first of all angular momentum is conserved abt the pt of contact..........ill tell u how..................
all forces comming into picture.....the infinite normal force.......the infinite frictional force........are acting at the pt of contact.....so these forces will not produce any torque abt the pt of contact as the moment arm(or watevr u call it) length =0...............hence the net external torque abt that pt =0.............nudge me if u have further doubts.........
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 16 May 2008 13:18:07 IST
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not sure bt wont u get a tourque of mg?
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 16 May 2008 13:24:13 IST
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as the disc is coming to hit the plane ull have a normal force acting on the disc at the pt of contact with the ground in such a way that it counter balances the effect of mg as a rotational cause.........
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 16 May 2008 13:47:53 IST
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so u said ur conservin momentum from the point of contact so then no torque cause of normal force
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 16 May 2008 13:51:46 IST
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Let me put it clear....im conserving "angular" momentum abt the pt of contact with the incline plane becoz there is no external torque abt the pt of contact with the incline plane............
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 16 May 2008 17:08:28 IST
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COULD U PLS GIVE A FBD DIAGRAM PLS PLS PLS PLS
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 16 May 2008 17:19:25 IST
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at pramod
dude all im sayin si u cant conserve angular momentum cause there is external torque of mg
nd i understand tat ur sayin tat there is no torque bt im disagreeing with the fact that there is no torque cause abt the point of contact mg does have a torque
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 16 May 2008 18:04:47 IST
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oye sarthak wat im trying to explain to u is that there is a normal force provided by the ground to the disc rite......ull also agree that this normal force provides a torque abt the pt of contact.........
the normal force provided is so adjusted that the torque due to mg is balanced by the torque due to this force.........
so on the net ther's no external torque abt the pt of contact........thats my openion........
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 16 May 2008 18:21:58 IST
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k......ive posted the soln. to this one........
any one having further doubts can approach my nudge book.........
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 16 May 2008 18:42:48 IST
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but i have seen some older editions of mtg physics for you magazines.............
the answer given is 3 v^2 / 4g as i have mentioned earlier.......
and i have not understood what u have given in the above post...........
please specify the answer and explain how u have got it...................
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 16 May 2008 18:58:11 IST
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can u also tell me from which book u have referred this concept.........................please.................
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 16 May 2008 19:06:35 IST
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i dont want to argue with u but i wont agree with ur previous posts..........................
please specify the book...............................................
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 16 May 2008 19:16:15 IST
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dude if the force was balanced u wouldnt get the thing moving up cause ur net force in the upward direction is zero. d its jst a assumption ur makin tat the force is balnced u have ny explanation for tat?
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 16 May 2008 19:55:31 IST
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