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Hey all,


I want to have a debate sort of thing between us on this topic-


Mahatma Gandhi V/s Bhagat Singh


How many of U think that Mahatma Gandhi's share in helping India to get freedom was more than Bhagat Singh's? Or vice versa?


How many of U believe that ''ahimsa'' is the right tool to snatch our independence from foreign hands? Or do U think that Bhagat Singh's revolutionary ideas are the right tool?


PLZ share with all of us, whom wud U have chosen as ur ideal if U were present in the era of Indian Freedom struggle? And WHY??


P.S.plz dont give replies like ''both are gr8'' or ''both played an imp. role in our freedom struggle''. I agree with this but still, plz choose one who U feel wud have been ur ideal.


 


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12 Jul 2008 14:50:01 IST
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xactlllllllllllllllly,........ppl say a lot for gandhi ji..........d same day we have lal bahadur shahtri ji's b day........but ppl don even knw dat many tyms,........wat was dere dat gandhi ji did n shashtri not???

besides, i think bhagat singh was young so a bit impatient, but gandhi ji always remained a spectator, he did gandhi march but bose did A LOT from japan............no one supported.. ........nehru wnted to do...........but gandhi ji denied...........i say, WE WONT HAD TO FYT SUCH LONG(WAT U CALL LONG M)IF DERE WUD HAVE BEEN A MASS REV... ARUOND 1920.

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12 Jul 2008 15:22:48 IST
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i think both of dem contributed equally ~!!!!
both had diferent methods !!!
due to both of dems hard efforts v hv achieved freedom !!!
i think gandijis method was mor gud !!!
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12 Jul 2008 15:50:16 IST
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Alright, lets take an example-

Suppose U R busy with ur work when someone comes and abuses you without any fault of yours. Just suppose that he is equally powerful as you and he can hit U with same intensity as U can hit him. He is continuously abusing you/using fowl language etc...
Now there are 2 ways to get rid of him-

1- Give him a punch. But as I mentioned he is as powerful as you, he will also answer U with a punch with same power. U keep hitting him, he will ALWAYS hit you back. But dont forget that ultimately it wud lead to his win becoz he became successful in his mission of troubling you and by hitting him back U acknowledged him that U were troubled by his presence.

2- Keep smiling. Dont say anything to him. Let him abuse you. He will keep abusing you for half an hour, 1 hour,2 hours but ultimately he will get tired or he will think that his abuses are not gonna bother this man, so no need to waste energy anymore. In either case, the winner is you becoz U didnt allow him to trouble you.

Now, 1 = Bhagat Singh
2 = Gandhi ji.
You = India
abuser=British

Although in this example I have assumed that we are as powerful as that abuser BUT the fact is that India was LESS powerful than Britain.
Although India had more manpower than british ppl BUT we were not united. There were partitions in the society on the basis of caste, class, religion, govt. servants(Indians who were faithful to british) etc.. And we were nothing but just small groups(each group < British) who wud have attacked independently and wud have lost.
Gandhiji knew this problem and that's why he used way-2. And dont forget that his main aim was not only independence of the country BUT also its developement.(CBSE students must have read the story ''Indigo" and must be aware of this fact).
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12 Jul 2008 16:09:52 IST
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tarin c'mon yaar.....

i mean yes its highly hpothetical.....par dis is life allrit.....
u dont say nething 2 him...
n he'll keep abusing u all day...next day....d day after...

plzzzz.....is dere a thing in us called self respect or not...
no dignity nuthing.....
and tat 2 when its ur own office he's abusing u in....
if we dont react then...we'd either be a statue....or staright outta an asylum.......

kk..ssssoooo plz give up this ....thought that it wulld work then or it wuld work now...
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12 Jul 2008 21:19:26 IST
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i agree wid tarin

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12 Jul 2008 22:05:48 IST
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hey!......
u r ryt tarin BUT
i feel any need of smilimg back............instead i 'll carry on my work!....
n if u speak of gandhian ways...........
in case two add dis...........
a person wid equal srength cums to help u to get rid of dat person at once.......den wasting tym in smiling is not a gud deal........dat was wat gandhi ji did!...........
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13 Jul 2008 19:16:26 IST
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let me do some dalali for Mr. Bhagat Singh here...


1. He used the gun only once in his life, and only ever shot three bullets.


2. He threw bombs not to injure/kill or massacre but to get himself arrested(and put on trial, so the bomb),


which would give him a platform to express his ideeas.


3. He was the first person  to suggest the idea of a republican and socialist india.


So why argue about who is greater?


 

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13 Jul 2008 19:42:00 IST
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hi hav u ever been 2 cellular jail in portblair.if u hav visited that place i m sure u wil see no role of gandhiji in feedom strugle.


 well gandhiji was not a repesentative of britishers he was a speaker of jawaharlal nehru since gandhiji has influence on people .gandiji does wateuer nehru say n u must be aware that pakistan ko jo kashmir milna tha jo nehru ne hi dia tha jiski vagah se aaj tak kitne log apni jaan de chuke hain use sirf power chahiye thi.!!!!

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13 Jul 2008 19:43:31 IST
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hi hav u ever been 2 cellular jail in portblair.if u hav visited that place i m sure u wil see no role of gandhiji in feedom strugle.


 well gandhiji was not a repesentative of britishers he was a speaker of jawaharlal nehru since gandhiji has influence on people .gandiji does watever nehru say n u must be aware that pakistan ko jo kashmir milna tha jo nehru ne hi dia tha jiski vagah se aaj tak kitne log apni jaan de chuke hain use sirf power chahiye thi.!!!!




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