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post all the mistakes in various jee keys
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please post here all the mistakes u can find in various jee keys. let me start off


the question to find the no of unpaired electrons in the brown ring complex(assertion reason)


i feel that  the reason is wrong. no key mentions this. but the NO group is chargeless and Fe is in +2 oxidation state rather thn in +1 state, dont u agree?


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Hot goIITian

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1 May 2008 16:36:39 IST
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i am also having a doubt in the same question ...

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1 May 2008 19:34:43 IST
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a lot of the soln.s of the narayana tutorials are pretty much questionable......one such debatable Q is tht of the potential of the earth......i feel tht the reason is right and it explains the assertion....pot. at surface of the earth= KQ/R.....the first thng tht comes to ur mind speaking of earth as a spear is its huge radius and thus the pot. at the surface of the earth is practically =0 nd thts why i feel the answer shud hav been A) instead of B)........




 


i hav not understood the soln. to the coordination compound assertion reasoning.....(the optical isomerism walla)......wud be great if some one comes ahead and explains the soln....


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1 May 2008 20:15:54 IST
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for the coordination compound question (optical isomerism walla) which you asked i saw that the answer in bansals was given as a and that in fiitjee was given as b.


according to me a is correct option ...

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1 May 2008 20:40:14 IST
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even i feel that the answer shud be A......nd even the chem. teacher of my insti. said it shud be A).....but BT has a different view pt....he says tht there cud be optical activity evn if there is an axis of symetry......


yaar lets hav some views on the potential of the earth wala Q......wat do u guys feel abt it........

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1 May 2008 20:54:13 IST
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i think b shud be the ans...bcoz it does not explain y u take earth at zero potential....nudge me if required

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1 May 2008 21:04:03 IST
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ya earth wale ka to even i think that b is the correct answer..

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1 May 2008 21:15:06 IST
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And in the column matrix type for the matching of pauli's exclusion principle i think it should get matched with all the option sgiven ie principlr quntum number, azimutal , spin , magnetic....

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1 May 2008 21:42:54 IST
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so does this mean that for these doubtful ques. we will get marks if attempted or will all he instees come to a commo concl. and solve our probs 

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2 May 2008 12:19:17 IST
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@
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NO+
and not NO
in that complex tht's why solution is correct...
100% correct solution...
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2 May 2008 12:21:13 IST
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@
sarveskala...
for compound to be optically active...
centre of symmetry and plane of symmetry sud be absent...lack of axis of symmetry is no criteria...

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2 May 2008 12:51:10 IST
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@ kislay


check out the bansal classes solution in which the answer for optically inactive compound due to axis of symetry is a..


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2 May 2008 13:51:54 IST
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in match matrix in phy,




 


the graph of displacement vs. time for 2d motion can hav an y intercept, while in some solution the answer is the one with y intercept as zero.




 


in the question it is not mentioned that the displacement is measure from the inertial position of the body




 


if u remember when u solve a question of this type-




 


a body starts from origin goes north-west by 10m and then 5 m towarsds west.. find the displacement of the body FROM THE ORIGIN?




 


it is always mentioned from where u hav to clac the displacement (like here it is mentioned from the origin). which means that displacement will change when measure from diffrent point. (hope u get my point)




 


hence the graph can also have some intercept


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2 May 2008 13:53:13 IST
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wat abt the ques which was abt conversion of work to heat and vice versa.


i think the ans is A.


 


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2 May 2008 13:58:25 IST
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in chem the CMC question in , which makes more lather..............


in my opinion the ans should be B which has R-SO3H attached to it (it is a cationic detergent) while the option A is R'-NR2 (which is anionic).


in ncert it is written that anionic detergent r used for medical purpose  while cationic detetgent r used in toothpaste.  henc from practical knowledge v can conclude that tooth paste form lather easily than those used in medical purpose.


 


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2 May 2008 14:19:32 IST
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the answer to the brown ring ques in A/R section, question on the OS of Fe


NO indeed replaces a water ligand, but by doing so, it is oxidized to a nitrosyl ligand, NO+. So, you get the compound [Fe(H2O)5NO]2+, but in this compound there is no NO ligand, but a NO+ ligand. The iron has oxidation state +1 in this complex, which is quite remarkable! Normally, iron has oxidation state +2 or +3.



On dilution, the nitrosyl complex is destroyed. It hydrolyses. The NO+ entity is not stable in water and is quickly converted to NO2- and/or HNO2. Iron in oxidation state +1 is not stable in water and so, the nitrite is reduced to gaseous NO.


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2 May 2008 14:22:37 IST
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2 May 2008 15:53:03 IST
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Brown ring complex ka solution samaj me nahi aaya mere and even if one considers no as no+ or simple no still how can there be 3 unpaired electrons ???

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2 May 2008 16:51:39 IST
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i think ans of earth potential ques should be a
and work and heat assertion reason should be b
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2 May 2008 19:36:24 IST
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i feel tht the answer to the potential of the earth walla Q. shud be A)..............the second statement explains the first statement and i guess the word "practical" is the key to this one......




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