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Well here's a post for the aspirants about the PS System of BITS. The post basically answers the following questions: What is it ,PS vs. internship, PS2 stations, PS and placements/rankings.


Q1.a) What’s this Practice School Program?


A) PS is a Course of BITS - Pilani University, running in all BITS Campuses. It is compulsory for all students.



PS has 2 components PS1 and PS2.PS1 is a 5 unit course and is of 2 months duration, done during the 2 months summer vacations after the 2nd year.PS2 is a 20 unit course and is of 6 months duration, done during the final year of a student. Dual Degree Students get 2 PS2 courses (i.e. their entire 5th year.


 For PS1, companies aren't degree selective. But for PS2, most companies are degree/skills/course selective.


PS1 is exposure-oriented while PS2 is project oriented.


And both are off-campus i.e. you work at the location of the organization's office


Q1.b)Is it applicable to ALL the Campuses?


Yes , and applicable EQUALLY. All PS Stations are open to ALL the students of the Pilani, Goa and in future, Hyderabad Campuses.


 


 


 


The Dubai Campus has a PS system too but their stations are located mainly in the Middle-East, so we shall exclude them for the current discussion.


 


 


 


Criteria for PS2 Station Allotment:


 


 


 


1)Preferences


 


 


 


2)CGPA


 


 


 


3)Branch


 


 


 


4)Projects done








 


 


 


We shall now discuss mainly about PS2.








 


 


 


Q2)So it’s a kind of an internship?


 


 


 


A) Not really. Unlike normal Internships, BITS has made links with the companies and you don't need to apply separately for the companies.


 


 


 


BITS faculty visit PS Stations (i.e. Host Companies) at least 2 times a week. A senior person in the organization (usually the HR/General Manager) oversees the BITSians' work and progress. The student is thus monitored and graded on various parameters. In short BITS has a formal agreement with the company.


 


 


 


In an internship , all your college can do is give you a recommendation letter and certify that you are a bonafide student. But in PS, you go to the company on behalf of BITS.


 


 


 


Because of this excellent PS System , BITSians rarely apply for internships.


 


 


 


Q3)So any fees?


 


 


 


A) Yes , 2 months summer term + Semester fees , approx Rs.34K for Pilani and Rs.38K for Goa.


 


 


 


Q4)Too bad....   :(


 


 


 


A) Not really!


 


 


 


In PS2 , ALL organizations pay stipends. PSU's and Research Instis pay lesser( around Rs. 10K pm or lesser) , but MNCs pay very well( Rs. 15K to 25K pm).


 


 


 


And foreign PS Stations(many more got opened this year) , pay an average of $1500-$2000 pm. Note that this is an above average stipend for a foreign country.


 


 


 


And the cost of living in these countries (mainly US/Europe) is quite high.


 


 


 


BITS is well justified in charging such fees. After all, the faculty members/volunteers etc. have to be paid, their transport arranged and other such logistical work has to be done.








 


 


 


Q5)Name some good companies which are PS Stations. And what about the foreign ones?


 


 


 


A)There are over 150 different organizations which have hosted PS Stations, some have hosted at more than 1 location.


 


 


 


As for seats, Indian PS2 stations can offer 5 – 15 seats for BITSians(combined , for all campuses).Foreign are usually lesser (3-8 )for all. It depends on the org. how many seats it wants to give. This is for 1 semester and it can change semester-wise. In 1 semester approx 400+300 students go for PS2.


 


 


 


There is no shortage of seats for PS2 or PS1.In fact many seats go unfilled because nobody wants to go there.


 


 


 


Let’s group PS2 stations as (along with some good examples):


 


 


 


Most of these stations are in Bangalore, Hyderabad, Pune, Mumbai, Delhi. (Except for "Foreign" , :) )








 


 


 


a)Core CS/Information Systems


 


 


 


1)Amazon.com


 


 


 


2)Microsoft Research Labs


 


 


 


3)Symantec R&D


 


 


 


4)Verisign


 


 


 


5)Oracle


 


 


 


6)QualComm


 


 


 


7)SAP Labs


 


 


 



 


 


 


8)BroadComm


 


 


 


9)Sun Microsystems


 


 


 


10)Yahoo


 


 


 


11)VMware


 


 


 


12)HP Labs


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


Google has been a practice school station but it isn't consistently there every time.(Check older PS2 list)


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


b)Core EEE/EnI


 


 


 


1)NVidea


 


 


 


2)ST Microelectronics


 


 


 


3)FreeScale Semiconductors


 


 


 


4)CISCO


 


 


 


5)Nokia


 


 


 


6)Motorola


 


 


 


7)Honeywell


 


 


 


8)GE


 


 


 


9)Intel


 


 


 


10)Siemens


 


 


 


11)Texas


 


 


 


12)Cypress Semiconductors


 


 


 


13)DELL


 


 


 


14)ABB


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 c)Core Mech/Chemical/Civil


 


 


 


1)Daimler Chrysler Research


 


 


 


2)Dunlop


 


 


 


3)Altair


 


 


 


4)Mahindra


 


 


 


5)TATA Motors


 


 


 


6)TVS


 


 


 


7)Pentiar


 


 


 


8)Bharat Forge


 


 


 


9)GE-John F Welch Technology Center(Bangalore)


 


 


 


10)Mercedes-Benz


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


d)Banks/Finance/Management Consultancy Firms


 


 


 


1)Morgan Stanley


 


 


 


2)JP Morgan and Chase


 


 


 


3)Goldman Sachs


 


 


 


4)Deloitte


 


 


 


5)Capital One


 


 


 


6)DeShaw


 


 


 


7)Deutshe Bank


 


 


 


8)Boston Analytics


 


 


 


9)Business Objects


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


e)IT Companies


 


 


 


1)Satyam


 


 


 


2)Accenture


 


 


 


3)Polaris


 


 


 


4)SAP


 


 


 


5)Sierra Atlantic


 


 


 


6)Wipro


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


f)Educational/Social/Research Instis


 


 


 


1)ISB , Hyderabad


 


 


 


2)UN Social and Economic Commission


 


 


 


3)Centre for DNA Fingerprinting and Diagnostics, HYDERABAD


 


 


 


4)Industrial Toxicological Research Centre, LUCKNOW


 


 


 


5)National Stock Exchange


 


 


 


6)NCAER


 


 


 


7)National Physical Laboratory


 


 


 


8)National Remote Sensing Agency , Hyderabad


 


 


 



 


 


 


g)Pharama and Medical


 


 


 


1)Novartis


 


 


 


2)Dr. Reddy's Lab


 


 


 


3)Wockhardt


 


 


 


4)Cadila


 


 


 


5)Ranbaxy


 


 


 


6)GlaxoSmithkline


 


 


 







 


 


 


h)Foriegn


 


 


 


1)Cypress Semiconductors , USA


 


 


 


2)DreamWorks , USA


 


 


 


3)INSEAD Business School ,  France and Singapore


 


 


 


4)Infineon Germany and Singapore


 


 


 


5)Iowa State University


 


 


 


6)Helsinki University


 


 


 


7)Histogenetics , USA


 


 


 


8)Royal Institute of Technology , Sweden


 


 


 


9)CitiBank , UK


 


 


 


.....and many more.


 


 


 


 


 


Below the PS2 list for past July-Dec 2008 has been posted. For older lists please visit http://bits360.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=10100#10100


 


Note these lists are not complete. Many new stations open up just before allotment and the list is often not updated.


 


 The list changes very often as companies opt in/out of the PS2 programme.Currently there are over 220+ PS2 stations and rising.


 


 


 


 Q)Hmm , it seems a lot organizations/companies are very interested in PS2.


 


A) Yes!Because it offers them a lot of benefits:


 


1) They get access to BITSian talent relatively easily. Also they are able to popularize their organizations among BITSians


 


2) Unlike other internships (which are much shorter), PS2 lasts for 6 months (or 1 yr for Dual Degree Students).So org. can get substantial work done.


 


3) For recruitment(discussed below)


 


 


 


Q)How does PS2 affect Placements?


 


A)Yes it does. And in a major way!!After training and making the BITSians work for 6 months, the org. wouldn't like to leave them just like that. It’s a major headache to lose trained and talented personnel like that.


 


So they usually offer a job if the student has worked well/if they have a vacancy. It saves the company time and money to hire them then and there , rather than coming to the campus, holding tests and interviews and selecting on the basis of that.


 


It is in fact COMMON to get placed through PS.


 


Last sem, PS Placements have been offered by  Infenion (Singapore),Nokia (Bangalore) , Mercedes(Bang), Cisco(Bang), Cosmic(Bang), Bharat Forge(Pune), Nvidia(Pune), Motorola(Bang), ST Microelectronics(Noida) and many more. Amazon.com(Hyd) offerred 14 lpa  domestic package to a dualite  who had  worked  for 1 yr through PS.Guess that 1 yr work exp helped as Amazon.com doesn't give freshers salaries like that.


 


In fact students choose PS stations which have a high probability of giving job offers.


 


There are exceptions (Like educational and research institutions, PSUs etc.), which don't hire through PS2.But students still go to research instis. as they are able to publish a paper under the guidance of an accomplished academician. This greatly helps the research-minded students who wish to go abroad.




 


 


 


Q) How does this affect Placement Statistics?


 


A) Ironically , it greatly DAMAGES the Placement Stats!!!!!


 


1)PS2 Placements are NOT recorded as Campus Placements, nor the packages offered. BITS isn't responsible for the job negotiations you do with your PS2 Host Organization.


 


Once a student is assured of a good job in a good PS2 Station, that student would not bother too much about campus placements, trying only for a back-up job.


 


2)A lot of companies on the PS2 list rarely come for campus placements to BITS.


 


In fact, Pilani Campus had just 78 companies for 520 students(to be placed) and Goa Campus just 41(For 198) in 1st sem 2007-08.


 


These figures are low when compared to the IITs and NITs.


 


But it must be remembered that PS2 itself is an important means for getting placed. And its list is very impressive.


 


3)No one really knows much about the PS System and it’s impact.


 


All people see is Highest/Avg/Lowest Salary offered through Campus Placements.


 


Average Salary offered for BITS is 4 lpa(for all branches ,all courses).Frankly this average is low for a great insti like BITS.


 


IT mass recruiters offer pretty much everyone a job at 3.3-4.1 lpa. Core/Foreign/Non Engg. companies each select a few at better salaries(usually 4.5-9 lpa+ domestic ,$40K-$90K for abroad.)So clearly, as IT offers are so many, the average salary offered comes down.


 


 Offered doesn’t mean accepted.


 


A student may:


 


1)Accept a job through Campus Placements.


 


2)PS or some other off-campus job offer.


 


3)Go for higher studies in India/Abroad.


 


4)Start one’s own company.


 


So, going just by placements can’t give you a complete picture.


 


Q)Has PS had any impact on the college rankings?


 


It is most unfortunate that ranking surveys rarely take into account the PS system of BITS Pilani.But then again I don't blame them.


 


NO OTHER UNIVERSITY IN INDIA has anything close to the PS System.


 


So I guess the surveys don't/can't have a parameter like "No. of PS Stations".


 


 Interestingly, BITS scored a low on Industry-Interface in the DataQuest Survey(which gave it 15th rank overall LOL)


 


This parameter was evaluated on the basis of "No. of Technical Journals published and Industry related Seminars held".


 


The FOOLS completely ignored the PS System!!!!


 


Check out the surveys of India Today(98-2004) , Outlook etc. and just see the “Perception of Recruiters” and “Placement ” parameter and notice that BITS has always scored very high(often above some IITs).


 


This is despite the fact that PS System hasn’t been taken into account.


 


In the last few years, there has been a boom in the economy and a lot of MNCs have been visiting various campuses in India.But many big ones don’t come to BITS because they hire through PS


 


Let me quote the recruiter’s perception/placement rankings here(for India Today):


 


 


 


Year: Rank in Placements/Overall Rank


 


 


 


98 : na / 5th


 


 


 


99 : na / 6th


 


 


 


00 : 2nd / 6th


 


 


 


01 : 6th / 4th


 


 


 


02 : 3rd / 3rd


 


03 : 4th / 5th


 


 


 


04 : 6th / 8th (Disputed)


 


After that BITS didn’t take part in India Today Survey.


 


For Outlook ,


 


06 : 6th/6th


 


07 : 3rd/6th


 


It is certain that the PS System has played a huge role in shaping the recruiter’s perception


 


Hope you guys stop going just by placements stats while choosing a college.


 


For any queries/clarifications, please ask.Please go down a LOT to see the stations , dunno why there is such a


 


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Source : http://www.bits-pilani.ac.in:12355/FacilityChart07-08.htm


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


List of Stations (JULY 2007 - DEC 2007)


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


S No Station


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


1     Accenture, Bangalore


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


2     Accenture, Hyderabad


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


3     Administrative Staff College of India, Hyderabad


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


4     Agilent Technologies International Pvt. Ltd., Bangalore


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


5     Agilent Technologies International Pvt. Ltd., Gurgaon(Delhi)


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


6     Agilent Technologies International Pvt. Ltd., Hyderabad


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


7     Alembic Ltd., Baroda


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


8     Altair Engineering India Pvt. Ltd., Bangalore


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


9     ARDC Design Complex - HAL, Bangalore


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


10    Aricent, Gurgaon(Delhi)


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


11    Aruba, Bangalore


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


12    ATS Services Pvt. Ltd., Delhi


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


13    Avtec Ltd., Hosur


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


14    Avtec Ltd., Sagore(Nagda)


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


15    BEA-India R&D Center, Bangalore


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


16    Behr India Ltd., Pune


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


17    Bharat Dynamics Ltd. (BDL), Hyderabad


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


18    Bharat Forge Ltd., Pune


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


19    Bharat Petroleum Corporation Ltd., Mumbai


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


20    Birla Museum, Pilani


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


21    Bisecure Networks Pvt. Ltd., Noida(Delhi)


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


22    BITS, Pilani - Hyderabad Campus Site, Hyderabad


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


23    BOC India Ltd., Kolkata


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


24    Boston Analytics, Mumbai


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


25    Broadcom India Pvt Ltd, Bangalore


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


26    Business Objects Software India Pvt. Ltd., Bangalore


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


27    CA India Technologies Pvt. Ltd., Hyderabad


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


28    Cadila Pharmaceuticals Ltd., Ahmedabad


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


29    Calance Corporation, Gurgaon(Delhi)


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


30    Capital One Asia Operations, Bangalore


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


31    CDC Software India (P) Ltd., Bangalore


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


32    Celstream Technologies, Bangalore


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


33    Central Bank of India, Mumbai


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


34    Central Drug Research Institute, Lucknow


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


35    Central Electronics Engineering Research Institute, Pilani


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


36    Central Electronics Engineering Research Institute(Chennai Centre), Chennai


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


37    Central Institute for Road Transport, Pune


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


38    Central Leather Research Institute, Chennai


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


39    Centre for DNA Fingerprinting and Diagnostics, Hyderabad


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


40    Century Rayon, Kalyan(Mumbai)


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


41    Chambal Fertilizers and Chemicals Ltd., Kota


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


42    CII-Shorabji Godrej Green Business Centre, Hyderabad


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


43    Cisco Systems (India) Pvt. Ltd., Bangalore


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


44    Citrix R&D India Pvt. Ltd., Bangalore


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


45    Cosmic Circuits Pvt. Ltd., Bangalore


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


46    CrimsonLogic India Pvt. Ltd., Bangalore


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


47    CSR India Pvt. Ltd., Bangalore


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


48    Cypress Semiconductor Tech. India Pvt. Ltd., Hyderabad


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


49    Cypress Semiconductor, San Jose, California, USA


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


50    Cypress Semiconductors, Bangalore


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


51    Cypress Semiconductors India Pvt. Ltd., Chennai


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


52    Daimler Chrysler Research India Ltd., Bangalore


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


53    Dell International Services, Bangalore


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


54    Dell International Services India Pvt. Ltd., Hyderabad


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


55    Deloitte, Hyderabad


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


56    Deloitte, Mumbai


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


57    Development Consultants Ltd., Mumbai


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


58    DHI (India) Water & Environment Pvt. Ltd., Delhi


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


59    Divgi Warner (P) Limited, Pune


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


60    Dr. Reddys Laboratories Ltd., Hyderabad


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


61    Eka Software Solutions Pvt. Ltd., Bangalore


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


62    Fiberlink Software Pvt. Ltd., Bangalore


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


63    Fidelity Business Services India Pvt. Ltd., Bangalore


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


64    Fiorano Software Technologies Pvt. Ltd., Bangalore


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


65    Fiorano Software Technologies Pvt. Ltd., Hyderabad


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


66    Freescale Semiconductor India Pvt. Ltd., Noida(Delhi)


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


67    FROST & SULLIVAN, Chennai


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


68    Fullerton India Credit Co. Ltd., Mumbai


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


69    Gabriel India Ltd., Pune


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


70    GE BE Pvt. Ltd., Bangalore


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


71    GE-John F WelchTechnology Center(GE India Tech. Center), Bangalore


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


72    General Motors India Ltd., Halol(Baroda)


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


73    Genesis Microchip (India) Pvt. Ltd., Bangalore


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


74    Genix Pharma Ltd., Hyderabad


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


75    Glaxosmithkline Consumer Healthcare R&D, Gurgaon(Delhi)


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


76    Global Logic India, Noida(Delhi)


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


77    GMR Group, Hyderabad


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


78    GMR Group, Sankli (Srikakulam)


 


 

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