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If a,b,c and p are disticnt real numbers such that:
 
(a2 + b2)p2 - 2(ab+bc)p + (b2 + c2) <= 0
 
then a,b,c are in what kind of progression? AP, GP or HP?How or why?
 
 
 

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now a term is a square so its an upward parabola and the expressions is less than zero so clearly it has 2 real roots and the expressions indicates those points where the curve is bellow x axis between the 2 roots!!!
here D < 0 since here the roots are not there
 
so 4(ab + bc) <= 4(a2 + b2) (b2 + c2)   //= bcoz expressions has <=
 
after cancelling terms we have
 
2ab2c <= (ac)2 + b4  
 
Dividing by ab2c
 
2 <= ac/b2 + b2/ac
 
thus t + 1/t >= 2
 
(t - 1/t)2 >= 0 which is always true but t is not zero
 
t  >= 1/t
 
t2 -1 >=  0  (t-1)(1+1) >= 0
t <= -1   and t >= 1
 
for t = 1 we have a GP here 's ur answr!!!!
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yes u r right thank you !

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nice prob.....fin the discriminant...den find roots for p...the u will see
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this has a simple solution
 
the equation can be written as
 
(ap-b)^2+(bp-c)^2<=0
 
so only equality holds (perfect square =>0)
 
hence
 
ap=b & bp=c
 
therefore p=b/a=c/b=r
 
so they arein gp
 
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(a2 + b2)p2 - 2(ab + bc)p + (b2 + c2)   <=   0
 
     (a2p2 - 2abp + b2)   +   (b2p2 - 2bcp + c2)   <=   0
 
     (ap - b)2   +   (bp - c)2   <=   0
 
     SO : (ap - b)  =  0    and    (bp - c)  =  0
 
    =>  p = b/a         and         p = c/b
 
  a/b = b/c           =>            a,b,c in G.P.           
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(a2+b2)p2 - 2(ab+bc)p + (b2+c2) <= 0

(ap-b)2 + (bp-c)2 <= 0

Since LHS >= 0

Hence  (ap-b)2 + (bp-c)2 = 0

ap-b=0  and  bp-c=0

p = a/b = b/c

Hence a,b,c are in GP.

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IIT Kharagpur

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Thanks allllllllll of you for makin it much simpler !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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