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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 8 Jun 2007 12:12:37 IST
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Show that the equation x4+4x3-4x-13=0 has two real roots only.
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 8 Jun 2007 22:55:04 IST
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let da roots b a,b,c,d a+b+c+d=-4 square on both sides and after simplification u get a2+b2+c2+d2=8 a,b,c,d cannot be natural numbers 8 cant b written as sum of 4 squares satisfying da given conditions den roots cant be fractions i v carefully inspect da given data so der must b atleast one complex number as root.but as complex roots exist in pairs der shud be 2 complex roots. so der r 2 real roots sorry 4 doing a lot of guess work
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 9 Jun 2007 06:57:15 IST
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vpunithraddy, i think ur proof is not accurate. can any one please help me?
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Dear,
f(x) = x4+4x3-4x-13
f'(x) = 4x3+12x2-4
f''(x) = 12x2+24x
f''(x) = 12x(x+2)
hence f''(x)>0 when x belongs to (-infinity , -2) U ( 0 , infinity)
and f''(x) < 0 when x belongs to (-2,0)
now let f'(x) has three roots a,b,c
a lies between (-infinity , -2 ) as f'(x) changes sign between (-infinity,-2) and f''(a)>0 so minima of f(x)at x=a
b lies between (-2 , 0 ) as f'(x) changes sign between ( -2, 0 ) and f''(b)<0 so maxima of f(x)at x=b
c lies between (0 , infinity ) as f'(x) changes sign between ( 0 , infinity) and f''(c)>0 so minima of f(x)at x=c
hence f(x) has two minima at x=a,c and one maxima at x=b and f(x) > 0 when x tends to + infinity and x tends to -infinity
now only three conditions are possible:
a) f(x) has all four real roots. then f(a)<0 and f(b) >0 and f(c) < 0
b) f(x) has all four imaginary roots. then f(a) >0 and f(b) > 0 and f(c) > 0
c) f(x) has two real and two imaginary roots. then f(a) <0 and f(b) <0 and f(c) < 0
so its sufficient if we proof that f(b)<0
now f(b) =b4+4b3-4b-13 we know f'(b) =4b3+12b2-4 =0 or b3+3b2-1=0.......[1]
so f(b) = b(b3+3b2-1) +b3-3b-13 from eq.[1]
or f(b) = b3-(3b+13) now as b lies in (-2,0) , (3b+13)>0
hence f(b) < 0
hence there is only two real roots .
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 13 Jun 2007 17:24:24 IST
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mr.amar gupta in ur solution u have taken that f1(x)=0 has three real roots.but how can we take like that it may have one real and two imaginary roots.what is the solution then?
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 13 Jun 2007 17:39:34 IST
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okay sir now i understood how it is. THANK u sir
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 13 Jun 2007 17:52:15 IST
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this means r u saying that f1(x)=0 has three real roots? but by using cardons method i am not getting real roots for f1(x).please tell me sir.............
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 14 Jun 2007 12:31:24 IST
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Dear Trisha,
I have shown you that f'(x) has three real roots as f'(x) has changing its sign in three regions........
(-infinity , -2 ) (-2,0) and (0,infinity)
any continuous function should cut the x axis or in other words it has roots if it changes sign .
f'(x) <0 when x-> -infinity but f'(x) > 0 when x= -2
again f'(x)<0 when x= 0 and f'(x)>0 when x-> infinity
so three must be three real roots.
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 14 Jun 2007 16:18:42 IST
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good njob aman
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 14 Jun 2007 16:19:44 IST
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after uv
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