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Contest [swordfish #3]: Find ways to distribute identical balls in identical boxes
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Find the no. of ways of distributing 30 identical balls in the three identical boxes, such that no box remains empty.


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i think,
when balls as well as boxes are identical,the number of combinations and arrangements will be 1 each in 12 cases.
therefore, the required number of ways
=1x1x12=12 ways

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12 cases means, the balls can be distributed in ,1,1 29 ; 1 2 28; ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,and soon
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for each box minimum no of balls that shud b kept is 1 n maximum is27... so applying the  thrfore total no of ways= coeffecient of  t30  in expansion of ( t1 + t2 +....... +t27 ) 3
this will give the answer....

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give the 29 balls 29 peoples and last ball give to the last man with the box

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give 27 balls to 27 peoples and the last 3 balls give the other peoples with the boxes. 

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WE HAVE 30 BALLS AND WE HAVE TO DIVIDE THEM INTO THREE GROUPS.
THIS CAN BE DONE BY PLACING TWO MARKERS BETWEEN THEM.
. . . . .        
No. of spaces = 29
Ways of placing two markers= 29C2

BUT SINCE THE BOXES ARE IDENTICAL SO TOTAL NO. OF CASES WII BE ONE-THIRD
      =
     (29C2 )/3

        

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first off all supplying 3 balls to 3 boxes. Remaining are 27balls. Consider a box. It can collect 1,2,3,4,........27 balls with it. Hence 27 casses possible with a box. NO MATTER WHAT THE BOX IT IS since all boxes are identical. So the answere must be 27.

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 the ans shud be
30! / (27! * 3!)
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30C3   IT'S EASY

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29x28/30x29=28/30=14/15
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to solve this sum we can use combinations

the answer would be 30C3 i.e, 4060 different ways

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10 each

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the no of soln is is any one get any no of balls
30+3-1
C
3-1
=32
C
2
=32.31/2=16.31=496
furthur cases when some donot get balls are present
3c2+3c2+3c3=7
therefore answer is 496-7=489

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the answer is 30c3 ie 4060

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14 Dec 2006 13:51:44 IST
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28*3=84 ways
ans..84 ways

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The answer is 30c3-29c2-28c1 which is equel to 56,406

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The answer is 30c3-29c2-28c1which is equal to 3626

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the no of soln is is any one get any no of balls
30+3-1
C
3-1
=32
C
2
=32.31/2=16.31=496
furthur cases when some donot get balls are present
3c2+3c2+3c3=7
therefore answer is 496-7=489



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