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Lemme see who solves it first
Determine range of
[ a/(a+b+d) + b/(a+b+c) + c/(b+c+d) + d/(a+c+d) ]  for positive reals a, b, c, d.
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<=4/3 ?

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i think the min tends to 1 and max tends to 2??

i.e range is (1,2)

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pl temme how it tend to 2

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let a>b>c>d
b+c+d < b + c+ a
=> \frac b {b+c+a} + \frac d {a+c+d} <= \frac b {b+c+d} + \frac d {b+c+d}
add \frac c {b+c+d} on both sides and the RHS will be 1
now, 0< \frac a {a+b+d} < 1
adding that on both sides, we get the inequality Smile
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NOTE: i did this same sum very recently, which is y i told d ans immediately Mr. Green

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[tex] \\ \frac{a}{a+b+d} +\frac{b}{a+b+c}+\frac{c}{b+c+d} + \frac{d}{a+c+d} >\frac{a}{a+b+c+d} +\frac{b}{a+b+c+d}+\frac{c}{a+b+c+d} + \frac{d}{a+b+c+d} = \frac{a+b+c+d}{a+b+c+d} = 1 \\ \\ \\ \mbox{Without any loss in generality ..Consider} \ a>b>c>d \ \mbox{now} \\ \frac{a}{a+b+d} <1 \ \mbox{also} \ b+c+d < a+b+c \ \mbox{and} \ a+c+d
\\ \mbox{so the last three terms} < \frac{b+c+d}{b+c+d} = 1 \\ \mbox{now adding both} \frac{a}{a+b+d} +\frac{b}{a+b+c}+\frac{c}{b+c+d} + \frac{d}{a+c+d}<1+1 = 2 \\ \\ \mbox{Thus the given expression lies between 1 and 2}
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edited

but i think there shud be a stricter inequality

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I am not sure whether you are asking the range in terms of a,b,c and d or actual values.
 
greater than 1 is easily proved.
 
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\frac{a} {a+b+d} + \frac{b} {a+b+c} + \frac {c} {b+c+d} + \frac {d} {a+c+d} \leq \frac {a} {a+b} + \frac {b} {a+b} + \frac {c} {c+d} + \frac {d} {c+d} = 2
 
Sorry, that should be a strict inequality.
 
But if it is in terms of a,b,c and d, we must note that if a>b>c>d, then
 
\frac {1} {b+c+d} \geq \frac {1} {a+c+d} \geq \frac {1} {a+b+d} \geq \frac {1} {a+b+c}
 
So, if we call the given expression S, Rearrangement Inequality gives,
 
S \leq \frac {a} {b+c+d} + \frac {b} {a+c+d} + \frac {c} {a+b+d} + \frac {d} {a+b+c}
 
and S \geq \frac {d} {b+c+d} + \frac {c} {a+c+d} + \frac {b} {a+b+d} + \frac {a} {a+b+c}
 
 
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also, because of the homogoneity of the expression we can assume a+b+c+d = 1.
 
I think smoothing principle would give you the minimum as 4/3. Could someone pls confirm this?
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no that's not true  S can be considered as a function in each variable seperately holding out others constant and in each case it is continiouas at each point in the reals - the point where it blows up
also it's clear that 1<=S<=2
we now prove that one can get as close one wants to both of them
set a=b=u and c=d=v
now take the limit x--->1 and y--->0 along any path  u want(if u wnat them to go depenedently otherwise no prob)(as the cauchy-reimann conditions hold true)
we get the limit as 1
set a=c=u and b=d=v and take limits as u--->1 and v--->0if u wnat them to go depenedently otherwise no prob) we get limit as 2
so we can get arbitrarily close

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Ya thats rite
Ans is 1<=A<=2
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