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We know that   a quadratic expression is a perfect square if its discriminant is zero .but n^2 -1 is perfect square at n=1 even its discriminant is not zero  why. Pl explain this concept I am little bit confused.








 




 








 




 Hence prove that there is no +ve  integer  for which  (n+1)^.5+ (n-1)^.5  is a rational number


 

    
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Hey If D is zero then the quadratic is necessarily a perfect square (I am not sure I understand what you mean by a perfect square) but the inverse may not be true.


Example. If triangle ABC covers triangle PQR then it is not necssary that Triangle PQR covers triangle ABC.

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One clarification: If the discriminant of a quadratic P(x) = ax2+bx+c equals zero, then P(x) = a (x-r)2


Now, if a and r are both integers and a is a perfect square P(x) is a square integer for all integer x. Note that this should happen for all integer x. P(n) = n2-1 is a perfect square only for n =1,-1. (as n2 is a perfect square and the only consecutive squares are 0,1)


Another example is consider P(x) = x2+16. It becomes the perfect square of an integer when x =3,-3. and for no other value of x.


Now to your second problem:


Let x = \sqrt {n+1} + \sqrt {n-1} be a rational number.


For n =1, x = \sqrt 2


Then x^2 = 2(n+ \sqrt{n^2-1}) is a rational number. However, we have proved above that if n \ne 1 then n2-1 is not a perfect square and the square root of an integer that is not a perfect square is irrational. Hence we obtain a contradiction.


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Again Let x = \sqrt {n+1} + \sqrt {n-1} be a rational number


Then so must its reciprocal i.e.  \frac{1}{x} = \frac{1}{\sqrt {n+1} + \sqrt {n-1}} = \frac{ \sqrt {n+1} - \sqrt {n-1}}{2}


This means \sqrt {n+1} + \sqrt {n-1} and \sqrt {n+1} - \sqrt {n-1} are both rational


i.e. \sqrt {n+1} \ \text{and} \sqrt {n-1} are both rational. This happens if both n+1 and n-1 are both perfect squares. However, we know that there are no two squares whose difference is 2. Again, we obtain a contradiction.


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