sign up I login
 advanced
refer a friend - earn nickels!!

Ask & Discuss Questions with Community & Experts

Moderation Team
 90 chars left    advanced
Ask iit jee aieee pet cbse icse state board community Community Discussion Question: For the Inequality Enthusiasts - I
Forum Index -> Algebra like the article? email it to a friend.  
Author Message
hsbhatt (5581)

Forum Expert Blazing goIITian

Olaaa!! Perrrfect answer. 1049  [1217 rates]

hsbhatt's Avatar

total posts: 1621    
offline Offline

If x,y and z are non-negative reals prove that:


\frac{\frac{x \sqrt y + y \sqrt z + z \sqrt x}{3} + \frac{y \sqrt x + z \sqrt y + x \sqrt z}{3}}{2} \le \sqrt{\left(\frac{x+y}{2}\right) \left( \frac{y+z}{2} \right) \left(\frac{z+x}{2}\right)}


Time wounds all heels
    
akki_0410 (506)

Hot goIITian

Olaaa!! Perrrfect answer. 84  [127 rates]

akki_0410's Avatar

total posts: 158    
online Online

As, x,y,z are real positive no's.



solving RHS,



multiplying all 3 equn, and taking its square root, we get,



solving LHL,


.......(ii)


similarly,


........(iii)


taking AM greater than equal to GM of (ii) and (iii), we get,



as, LHL & RHL ar both greater than root (xyz)


so we cannot comment on sign between LHL and RHL.................


PLEASE CHECK WEATHER I AM CORRECT OR NOT...................


 


 


AKSHAY KULKARNI
 this reply: 0 points  (with Olaaa!! Perrrfect answer.   in 0 votes )   [?]
 
You have to be logged on to rate
  
rudra.panda (2760)

Blazing goIITian

Olaaa!! Perrrfect answer. 472  [672 rates]

rudra.panda's Avatar

total posts: 2602    
offline Offline
first we don't have to use AM-GM inequality or the sign will be other way around.
 this reply: 0 points  (with Olaaa!! Perrrfect answer.   in 0 votes )   [?]
 
You have to be logged on to rate
  
hsbhatt (5581)

Forum Expert Blazing goIITian

Olaaa!! Perrrfect answer. 1049  [1217 rates]

hsbhatt's Avatar

total posts: 1621    
offline Offline

@akki: You are absolutely right that nothing can be concluded by this approach Very Happy.


But do keep trying. Its very instructive


Time wounds all heels
 this reply: 0 points  (with Olaaa!! Perrrfect answer.   in 0 votes )   [?]
 
You have to be logged on to rate
  
ronty (509)

Hot goIITian

Olaaa!! Perrrfect answer. 83  [130 rates]

ronty's Avatar

total posts: 103    
offline Offline

firstly the power-mean inequality............


L.H.S.<={((x.y1/2+y.z1/2+xz1/2)2+(yx1/2+zy1/2+zx1/2)2)/18}1/2


now we expand the squares...


L.H.S.<=square root of the following expression:


1/8{x2y+y2x+x2z+z2x+y2z+z2y+2xyz} -


1/18{5/4(x2y+y2x+x2z+z2x+y2z+z2y+2xyz) - {2x2(yz)1/2+2xy(yz)1/2+2yz(xy)1/2+2z2(xy)1/2+2xyz}}.


now,square root of 1/8{x2y+y2x+x2z+z2x+y2z+z2y+2xyz} is the reqd. R.H.S.


so all we need to do is to show that


X={5/4(x2y+y2x+x2z+z2x+y2z+z2y+2xyz) - {2x2(yz)1/2+2xy(yz)1/2+2yz(xy)1/2+2z2(xy)1/2+2xyz}>=0.


since 2(yz)1/2<=y+z,and similarly the others ,  we get


X>=5/4(x2y+y2x+x2z+z2x+y2z+z2y+2xyz) -(x2(y+z)+xy(y+z)+yz(x+y)+z2(x+y) -xyz/2)


=1/4(x2y+y2x+x2z+z2x+y2z+z2y) -3xyz/2.


by simple A.M. G.M. inequality, we see that the last expression>=0.


hence we are done.


A SMILE IS A CURVE THAT CAN SET A LOT OF THINGS STRAIGHT!
 this reply: 30 points  (with Olaaa!! Perrrfect answer.   in 6 votes )   [?]
 
You have to be logged on to rate
  
sandeepramesh (1247)

Blazing goIITian

Olaaa!! Perrrfect answer. 201  [322 rates]

sandeepramesh's Avatar

total posts: 1182    
offline Offline

2 AM-GM's will do it.....

 this reply: 0 points  (with Olaaa!! Perrrfect answer.   in 0 votes )   [?]
 
You have to be logged on to rate
  
hsbhatt (5581)

Forum Expert Blazing goIITian

Olaaa!! Perrrfect answer. 1049  [1217 rates]

hsbhatt's Avatar

total posts: 1621    
offline Offline

nice work ronty. But could I trouble you to latex your solution. It will be easy for others to read it.


Time wounds all heels
 this reply: 0 points  (with Olaaa!! Perrrfect answer.   in 0 votes )   [?]
 
You have to be logged on to rate
  
hsbhatt (5581)

Forum Expert Blazing goIITian

Olaaa!! Perrrfect answer. 1049  [1217 rates]

hsbhatt's Avatar

total posts: 1621    
offline Offline

It is very good to see you guys doing these problems. Because frankly, I have only recently begun to learn the subject of inequalities and definitely did not know beyond AM-GM when I attended JEE. This problem was given as part of a tech-fest called Shaastra that just concluded at IIT-Chennai. I had the following solution:


 


We have by Cauchy Schwarz Inequality:


 



\sqrt{(xy+yz+zx)(x+y+z)} \ge x \sqrt y + y \sqrt z + z \sqrt x 


 


Again by the application of the same inequality,


 


 \sqrt{(xy+yz+zx)(y+z+x)} \ge y \sqrtx + z \sqrt y + x \sqrt z 


 


Hence, we get


 


\sqrt{(xy+yz+zx)(x+y+z)} \ge \dfrac{x \sqrt y +  y \sqrt z + z \sqrt x}{2} + \dfrac{y \sqrtx + z \sqrt y + x \sqrt z}{2}


 


Now, we only have to prove that


\frac{1}{3}\sqrt{(xy+yz+zx)(x+y+z)} \le \sqrt{\left(\frac{x+y}{2} \right) \left(\frac{y+z}{2} \right) \left(\frac{z+x}{2}\right)} 


 


Or, squaring both sides,


 


8(xy+yz+zx)(x+y+z)} \le 9 (x+y)(y+z)(z+x)


 


We can simplify things by exploiting homogeneity and hence letting x+y+z = 1


 


So that we now have to prove that


 


8(xy+yz+zx)(x+y+z)} \le 9 (1-x)(1-y)(1-z) \\ \\<br/>= 9(1 - (x+y+z)+ \sum xy -xyz) = 9(xy+y+z+zx-xyz)


 


Or


 xy+yz+zx \ge 9 \ \text{or} \ \frac{1}{x}+\frac{1}{y}+\frac{1}{z} \ge 9


 


But this is obviously true as we have from AM-GM


 


(x+y+z) \left(\frac{1}{x}+\frac{1}{y}+\frac{1}{z} \right) \ge 9 


 


And since x+y+z = 1, we do have


 


\frac{1}{x}+\frac{1}{y}+\frac{1}{z} \ge 9


 


Hence it follows that


\frac{\frac{x \sqrt y + y \sqrt z + z \sqrt x}{3} + \frac{y \sqrt x + z \sqrt y + x \sqrt z}{3}}{2} \le \sqrt{\left(\frac{x+y}{2}\right) \left( \frac{y+z}{2} \right) \left(\frac{z+x}{2}\right)}


Time wounds all heels
 this reply: 10 points  (with Olaaa!! Perrrfect answer.   in 2 votes )   [?]
 
You have to be logged on to rate
  
jishnudas1991 (1010)

Blazing goIITian

Olaaa!! Perrrfect answer. 170  [250 rates]

jishnudas1991's Avatar

total posts: 326    
offline Offline



The answer my friend
Is blowing in the wind.
 this reply: 5 points  (with Olaaa!! Perrrfect answer.   in 1 votes )   [?]
 
You have to be logged on to rate
  
jishnudas1991 (1010)

Blazing goIITian

Olaaa!! Perrrfect answer. 170  [250 rates]

jishnudas1991's Avatar

total posts: 326    
offline Offline
Re:For the Inequality Enthusiasts - I


The answer my friend
Is blowing in the wind.
 this reply: 0 points  (with Olaaa!! Perrrfect answer.   in 0 votes )   [?]
 
You have to be logged on to rate
  
hsbhatt (5581)

Forum Expert Blazing goIITian

Olaaa!! Perrrfect answer. 1049  [1217 rates]

hsbhatt's Avatar

total posts: 1621    
offline Offline

The last part of Jishnu's post answers an extension of this question and was asked in the techfest from where I filched the question.


Good work guys.


Time wounds all heels
 this reply: 0 points  (with Olaaa!! Perrrfect answer.   in 0 votes )   [?]
 
You have to be logged on to rate
  
 
Forum Index -> Algebra
Go to:   

 Aakash Institute IIT/ AIEEE/ Medical Crash Course
Name  
E-mail  
Phone