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maths olmpiad problem : - find the greatest no. of 4 digits, which when divided by 3,5,7,and 9 lea
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maths olmpiad problem : - find the greatest no. of 4 digits, which when divided by 3,5,7,and 9 leaves remainders 1,3,5 and 7 respectively . PLZ give full solutions and step and not just answer , ratings promised to one who does it correct at first


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find the greatest no. of 4 digits, which when divided by 3,5,7,and 9 leaves remainders 1,3,5 and 7 respectively

 

observe that the remainder obtained in each case is 2 less than the divisor,

So, if the no. is X then X-2 is divisible by 3,5,7,9

 

So largest 4 digit no divisible by 3,5,7,9 is k*9*7*5 = 9765 (k is appropriately chosen)

 

So X-2 = 9765

=> X = 9767

 

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soory your ans is wrong , divide the no which u have posted with 5 the remainder comes to be 2 instead of 3

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13 Sep 2009 18:42:56 IST
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Hint: If that number is n, then n+2 is divisible by 3,5,7 and 9


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Let's first look at the properties of ALL such 
integers, not necessarily the greatest one with
four digits, not necessarily even one with four
digits, and not necessarily even one that is
positive.

Theorem:
If two integers p and q are such that p mod r = q mod r,
then they differ by a multiple of r.

Proof:

p mod r = q mod r

(p mod r) - (q mod r) = (0 mod r)

(p - q) mod r = 0 mod r

Thus they must differ by a multiple of r.

Therefore if p and q both satisfy the given
conditions, then they must differ by some
multiple of 3, which is also a multiple of 5,
which is also a multiple of 7, and which is
also a multiple of 9.

Since a multiple of 9 is also a multiple of 3,
we only need to multiply 5x7x9 = 315 to find the
smallest number two such numbers can differ by.
This suggests an arithmetic sequence of values
satisfying the given conditions.

Now let's find ANY integer meeting the
given requirements.

If p is such an integer then there exist
integers a,b,c,d such that

p = 3a + 1 = 5b + 3 = 7c + 5 = 9d + 7

Let's investigate to find out if there exists
a simple solution where a = b = c = d. If so then

p = 3a + 1 = 5a + 3 = 7a + 5 = 9a + 7

Now we are in luck here because setting any of
the 4 expressions on the right equal to each
other gives a = -1 and thus p = -2

So the arithmetic sequence with first term

a1 = p = -2 and common difference d = 315 will be
an arithmetic sequence of integers meeting the
given requirements.

The nth term of an arithmetic sequence is given by

an = a1 + (n-1)d

an = -2 + (n-1)(315)

an = -2 + 315n - 315

an = -317 + 315n

Now since the term of this sequence we are seeking
is the largest one with 4 digits, we require that it
be less than 10000.

So

an = -317 + 315n < 10000
315n < 10317
n < 3270/105

So the largest value of n we can use
is n = 32.

So

a32 = -317 + 315(32)

a32 = 9763

That's it! Rate me people...as u promised...


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13 Sep 2009 18:48:47 IST
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Ans is 9763...


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13 Sep 2009 18:49:16 IST
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Nd not 9767..I think m correct??


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13 Sep 2009 21:48:42 IST
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maan gaye akshant bhai , very good even experts in this community solved it wrong , here are 20 pts as i promised with me and my frndz

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u can see i am a man of my words , your 20 pts ..... very gud

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Thanks Shashank...For more doubts just post it in disscussion forum and then post d link in my nudgebook...I will try to sort it out...Nd do rate me..lolz...;))


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so everyone thought he did this of his own

see this then

http://www.algebra.com/algebra/homework/divisibility/Divisibility_and_Prime_Numbers.faq.question.119667.html

word to word copy paste till thats it!!


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19 Jan 2010 18:27:47 IST
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 Worse still, I had given a simpler method in my post. And I was told it was wrong 


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19 Jan 2010 18:33:50 IST
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hari sir

u and few other experts here are the only genuine people here

almost all are spammers

that is the reason of downfall of this site

that y we dont find anymore konichiwa ,elastiboysai here

sorry for being harsh , but truth is bitter


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 akshant was a big fraud.....telling himself to be an iitb passout....wen he himself was a dropper....dar ke bhag gaya...lol




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