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Nature of the rootsss
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Find the nature of the roots of
 
 
 
 
 
(X-a)(X-b)+(X-b)(X-c)+(X-c)(X-a)=0
 
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is d answer dat d roots r real??
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Options r
 
1. real
2. positive
3. complex
4. none
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is d ansewr real
 
c
wen discrimnt >0
real roots n unequal rts
 
wen discrimnt =0
real n equal rts
wen discrmnt <0
then imaginary rts
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But how can u find out whether they are positive or not
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sorry edted....
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Hey but there the cond. is equal roots
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hav drwn d graph??
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no
 
tell me one thing... cant d roots be -ve
 
put some negative values nd solve
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c d roots r a,b,c
n tehy cannot b negative
solve d whole thing u'll get
4a^2+4b^2++4c^2-4ab-4bc-4ac=0
here if u put negative value it bcums positve
n do not saticfy .......
hope u get  i t
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who said the roots are a,b,c ?
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i said!!
just kiddin
i felt so coz wen u put x=a'b'c it satisfies i felt so
bt no it doent satisfy ......solly
 c u knw sine graph
n d y=x graph is incliend 2 x axis at 45 degree
drw them n then find out
 
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arey sinx is not inclined at 45 deg
 
kisne kaha
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wen i tld sin x graph is inclined
i said kiy=x graph is inclined 2 x axis at 45 de
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to woh to pata hi hai
 
u just solve it nywaysssssssssssss
 
 
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hope its multiple ans quesn....else d soln doesnt turn out
expand d eqn nd u get
3X^2 -2(a+b+c)X +(ab+bc+ca)=0

discrim. D=4(b+c+a)^2 - 12(ab+bc+ca)
now, if i subs b=c=a=1, i get D=0 nd real roots
if i substitute b=0,a=1, c=1, i get D>0 => roots r real nd +ve
if i subs a=1,b=0,c=-1, i again get D>0 =>real nd +ve roots
if i subs a=c=1, b=-1, i get D<0 => complex roots
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 so d ans is options =a,b,c
 
by d way is ther any restriction on a,b and/or c???
 
if so, then my ans wud b only a particular option
 


 
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I will do it the fundamental way.

Put X=a
=> f(a) = (a-b)(a-c)

Put X=b
=>f(b) = (b-c)(b-a)

Put X=c
=>f(c) = (c-a)(c-b)

Now there are 6 cases:

1) a>c , b>c , a>b
2) a>c , b>c , b>a
3) a>c , b<c
4) a<c , b>c
5) a<c , b<c , a>b
6) a<c , b<c , b>a

Using the above knowledge and taking cases we find that always f(x).f(y)<0, which implies there is a root between x and y, hence roots are real.

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 if (x-a)(x-b)+(x-b)(x-c)+(x-c)(x-a)=0
3x2-2x(a+b+c)+(ab+bc+ca)=0
this is quardadic equation so we will find D
 
4(a+b+c)2-12(ab+bc+ca)=4[(a+b+c)2-3(ab+bc+ca)]=4{a2+b2+c2-ab+bc+ca}
which is equal to
4/2{ (a-b)2+(b-c)2+(c-a)2} which is greater than 0
so the roots of this equation are real.
 

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here
   just multiply all first then it becomes
3x2 -2(a+b+c)x+ab+ac+bc =0
discriminant=4(a+b+c)2-4.3(ab+ac+bc )
                  =4(a2+b2+c2-ab-ac-bc)
                  =2[(a-b)2+(b-c)2+(c-a)2 which is either equal to 0 or greater than 0
   so its nature of roots are real .
so ans is A



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