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find the sum of all the digits of a natural number n such that on removing the extreme left digit of 'n', the number n/57 is also a natural number


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Hot goIITian

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13 Feb 2007 19:27:56 IST
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157,114 etc.
take any multiple of 57, "add" any digit to its leftmost place
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13 Feb 2007 20:46:38 IST
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read your question once again,it is not making sense
 
 
''on removing the extreme left digit of 'n', the number n/57 is also a natural number ''
 
when you remove first digit of n , the resultant won't be n only
so what do you mean by n/57 is a natural no. and what has it got to do with removing first digit?
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13 Feb 2007 20:54:23 IST
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hey.manasi idon't understand ques. plz make it clear to me
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13 Feb 2007 22:00:29 IST
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wat i mean to say is, suppose n is  234578, then on removing 2, 34578 shud be divisible by 57
note: the question was a bit wrong, hav corrected it, srry guys
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19 Feb 2007 00:39:49 IST
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Take a special case. Consider numbers 157 257 357 457 557 ....957. Removing left digits of this number will give me a number which is divisible by 57. But for all these numbers sum of digits is different. So what exactly are you looking for in the answer
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19 Feb 2007 11:00:34 IST
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the question given was this much only, nothin else.... it was in some coaching entrance test.... may be they would be asking some general form !!!!

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24 Feb 2007 22:42:29 IST
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the number is 7125 and sum is 15
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25 Feb 2007 12:55:56 IST
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let the no. obtained by ommiting the digit be x then
57x=(let)abcdef????.               (i)
X=bcdef??????..             (ii)
Subtracting (ii) from (i)
56x=a000000000000000??..(noif digits in no)
X=a0000000000000/56
For x to be an integer
a=7and no of digits greter than 4
x=7 x125000???.
57x=399x125000???????..
smallest such no is=49875
Depends on no of digits
Hope this is correct
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25 Feb 2007 12:58:25 IST
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c'mon what do you say

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25 Feb 2007 13:29:02 IST
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hey i hav already posted the smallest number it is ..7125
see remove 7 u get 125 which is nothing but 7125/57
rite...!!!
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25 Feb 2007 15:22:19 IST
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Let the leftmost no. be a and its palce value to be a*10b .

After removing the leftmost digit the remaining no. is divisible by 57 hence n must be odd.

As per the question :   a*10b + (n/57) = n

=>   57*a*10b = 56n

=>   (19).(3a).(5b).(2b-3.23) = (7).(23).n

=>   (19).(3a).(5b).(2b-3) = 7n

Since n is odd then RHS will also be odd.
Hence LHS must be odd implies power of 2 should be zero.

Hence   b-3 = 0   =>   b = 3

Putting this above we get
(19).(3a).(125) = 7n

=>   7125a = 7n

Since 7125 is not divisible by 7 and RHS has 7 as a factor then a must be 7.

Hence n comes out to be 7125.

Sum of digits = 15

Hope its clear now.

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25 Feb 2007 15:45:40 IST
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oh !
I wrongly understood the question !!!
yes , your answer is correct !!!!!



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