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plz solve this(CAT 2002) question
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if x,y,z are real numbers and x+y+z=5 , xy+yz+xz=3 then the maximum value x can have is ?


 


 


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Isn't this similar to this question (from IIT sample paper 2006)
Refer to this one :
http://www.goiit.com/posts/list/algebra-x-y-z-15-and-xy-yz-zx-72-prove-that-3-x-7-88587.htm
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 i think the answer is "3"




 


 the procedure is




 


           given..,




 


    x+y+z=5




 


squaring on both sides




 


    x2+y2+z2+2{xy+yz+xz}=25




 


     x2+y2+z2 +2{3}=25




 


      x2+y2+z2 =25-6




 


                     =19




 


         the only triplet satifying this condition is 3,3,-1




 


                 bcozzzzz we can take -3,-3,1 also but their sum is not equal to 5




 


so the triplet is 3,3,-1 this satisfies all the given conditions so the max value for x is 3 and min value is -1




 


 




 


 




 


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    x+y+z=5


squaring on both sides


   



     x2+y2+z2 +2{3}=25


      x2+y2+z2 =25-6


 


                     =19


But now we know that


Hence


Hence max. value is 25/3


 


 

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unfortunately, neither of the above answers is correct :(
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IS  ans 13/3

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From the given equalities, we get x^2+y^2+z^2 = (x+y+z)^2-2\sum xy = 19


Hence y^2+z^2 = 19-x^2 \ge 2yz


Now, 3 = xy+yz+zx = x(y+z)+yz = x(5-x)+yz \le 5x-x^2+\frac{19-x^2}{2}


This leads to the inequality, 3x^2-10x-13 \le 0


and since the leading coefficient is positive, we have x \le \frac{13}{3}

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Re:plz solve this(CAT 2002) question
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yes , the answer is 13/3

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i have a doubt regarding this question, is it true that for x to be maximum y must equal z i.e y=z.
if so, then how come it can be inferred?
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Another


x^2 + y^2 + z^2 = 19


 


Using cauchy swarz


(y^2 + z^2)(1 + 1) > = (y+z)^2


Substituting to get x,


=> (19 - x^2)(2) >= (5-x)^2


=> 38 - 2x^2 > = 25 + x^2 -10x


=> 13 >= 3x^2 -10x


 

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Equality holding for cauchy swarz when y/1 = z/1




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