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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 9 Mar 2008 10:08:49 IST
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A fair coin is tossed 13 times. What is the probabilty that two heads donot occur consecutively? ( correct solution: 20 pts) State ur answer with proof
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This sum can be solved by obtaining a sequence ..from which it is easy to generalize Consider a fair die tossed twice u could get HT ,TT ,TH,HH the answer will be 3/4 Consider a fair die tossed thrice u could get HHH,HHT,HTH,HTT,THH,TTH,THT,TTT answer is 5/8 similarly consider it tossed 4 times the answer is 9/16 Did u get the sequence? the numerator is always the (denominator/2+1) so if u toss 13 times what is denominator? 213 so answer is [(213/2)+1]/213 = (212+1)/213
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 9 Mar 2008 11:14:59 IST
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the ways of getting the throws such that no heads occur simultaneously:
13 T 12 T 1 H 11 T 2 H 10 T 3 H . .. .
for arranging we have to place t tails and place h heads in the t+1 gaps created so for any case t+1Ch so we can see it as 14C0+13C1+12C2+......7C7
total no of cases is 213 so probablity is (14C0+13C1+12C2+......7C7)/213
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 10 Mar 2008 12:13:00 IST
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@sboosy... i am really sorry i couldnt get 9 cases in the 4 throws?
TTTT- 1 case THHT-3 cases(THTH HTHT HTTH) TTTH-4 cases that makes 8 cases not 9
similarly for 5 coins
TTTTT- 1 case TTTTH- 5 cases TTTHH-6 cases (10 ways of arranging- 4 unfavorable) TTHHH- only 1 (HTHTH) that makes 13 only and not 17 as u require it to be 3/4 is right... but after that ur series fails to hold so i still believe my answer is right...coming out to 610/2^13
PS plz correct me if i am wrong!might have missed sumthing here!
general solution: for n tosses: summation(from i=0 to i=(n+1)/2){n+1-iCi}for n =2k+1 summation(from i=0 to i=(n)/2){n+1-iCi} for n=2k
 
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 10 Mar 2008 19:19:28 IST
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Anyone has the answer?
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 10 Mar 2008 21:15:03 IST
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I guess the answer given by akhil is right.
Here is a method which is not included in JEE but is very easy to understand. Both the methods give the same answer.
Let h(x) denote the no. of possible combinations with H at the end and t(x) denote the no. of possible combination with T at the end.
So the final answer will be h(13) + t(13)
Now, h(x) = t(x-1) Because the only way to get a head at the end is to put H at the end of series ending with T.
Similarly t(x) = h(x-1 ) + t(x-1) because u can put a T at the end of any series.
so we can manually calculate the values upto 13
x 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 h(x) 1 1 2 3 5 8 13 21 t(x) 1 2 3 5 8 13 21 34
it is easy to see that this is the fibonacci series. h(13 ) + t ( 13 ) will be 610 .
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 10 Mar 2008 21:17:20 IST
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brilliant nadeemoidu...we missed fibonacci!
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 11 Mar 2008 10:18:26 IST
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ans. is 610/2^13
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 11 Mar 2008 10:24:27 IST
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didnt understand dude.. what is h(x) ? is it no. of outcomes where H appears at the xth position in 13 tosses?
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 11 Mar 2008 16:34:11 IST
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h(x) is the no. of ways in which H and T appear in 'x' throws such that the last throw is H and no two Hs are consecutive.
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