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prove that there does not exist a natural no. n  whose product of digits is  ........


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n^3-25n^2+151n

= n(n^2-25n+151)

Let n_1 and n_2 be any two natural numbers whose product is n^3-25n^2+151n

Hence they satisfy the equation,

n(n^2-25n+151) = 0

Sum of the roots = 25

Product of the roots=151

151 is a prime no with its only factors being 151 and 1, hence the above two conditions are not satisfied by any n \in N

Hence there does not exist a natural number n  whose product of digits is n^3-25n^2+151n


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One query with the above solution: n1 and n2 are natural numbers such that n1n2 = n^3-25n^2+151n


Further it is stated that n^3-25n^2+151n = 0. This means that n1n2 = 0 which is not possible in natural numbers.


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If you denote the product of the digits of a number n by P(n), we can prove that P(n) n


Let n = 10^k a_1+10^{k-1}a_2+....+a_{k+1}


a_1 a_2 a_3 ....a_{k+1} = a_1 (a_2 a_3.....a_{k+1}) < a_1\underbrace {(10 \times 10 \times 10 \times ... \times 10)}_{ k \ \text{terms}} = 10^k a_1 < n


Equality occurs for single digit numbers.


So, we must have n^3 - 25n^2 + 151n \le n


\Rightarrow n(n^2 - 25n + 151) \le n \Rightarrow (n-10)(n-15)+1 \le 1


 \Rightarrow (n-10)(n-15)+1 = 1 \ \text{(as it cannot be zero)} and also it should be positive


This gives n = 10 or n= 15, for which we get the given function to be equal to 10 and 15, which is obviously greater than the product of roots.  


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yaar, is it right or wrong?


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