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if        has two distindt roots in(0,1)  where a,b,c are natural numbers then prove that abc=25


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Please clarify whether you mean abc 25.


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sorry for my mistake.........

its abc>=25

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Since both roots are real we must have b24ac.


\text{Since} \ ac>0 \ \text{we have} \ \sqrt {b^2 -4ac} < b


This ensures that both roots are positive.


\text{If the larger of the roots is} \ \alpha \\ \\<br/>\alpha = \frac{b+\sqrt{b^2-4ac}} {2a} < \frac{2a}{2b} = \frac{b}{a} \\ \\<br/>b<a \Rightarrow \alpha<1 \\ \\<br/>\text{So, we can impose the condition} \ b \le a \\ \\<br/>


We need not have b<a as ac>0 still ensure that the root is less than 1


Product of roots is less than one forces c<a


Thus, we have 4ac<b2a2


For abc to be minimum, we can set c=1


Hence a2>4a a>4


So the minimum value a can take is 5.


Now 20<b225.


So, b = 5 for this minimal choice of a and c.


So, now abc = 25


This also happens to be the minimal value as for c = 2, a>8 and abc exceeds 25


Hence we have abc 25.


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Please can you explain this step:


We need not have b<a as ac>0 still ensure that the root is less than 1




 

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This is because\sqrt{b^2 - 4ac} is strictly less than b. So \frac{b+\sqrt{b^2 - 4ac}}{2a} is strictly less than \frac{b}{a}


 


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