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how can i solve these type of question.
 
 
(1)  16+26+36+46............n6 = An7+Bn6+Cn5+Dn4+En3+Fn2+Gn+E
what will be the value of A,B,C,D,E,F
konichiwa2x  can you solve this question.
 
 
and gave a general formula for this question means
 
(1)  1r+2r+3r+4r............nr = A n(r+1) +Bnr......................
    
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I am flattered that you ask for me. I will give the question a try.
By the way, the last part of the question..is it Fn^2+Gn+H or Fn^2+Gn+E?

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It is in decreasing power of x matlab 7,6,5,4,3,2,1
and A,B,C,D,E,F,G are cofficient
Iam asking bcz u r so amazing solve all of my question.
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Are the answers , , , , , , ?

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To solve this question you need knowldge of bernoulli numbers Bn which were first discovered in connection with the closed forms of the sums
sum_{k=0}^{m-1} k^n = 0^n + 1^n + 2^n + cdots + {(m-1)}^n
for various fixed values of n. The closed forms are always polynomials in m of degree n + 1. The coefficients of these polynomials are closely related to the Bernoulli numbers, as follows:
sum_{k=0}^{m-1} k^n = {1over{n+1}}sum_{k=0}^n{n+1choose{k}} B_k m^{n+1-k}. 
Here .
For example, taking n to be 1, we have 0 + 1 + 2 + ... + (m ? 1) = (1/2) (B0 m2 + 2 B1 m1) = 1/2 (m2 ? m).
 
Bernoulli numbers may be calculated by using the following recursive formula:
sum_{j=0}^m{m+1choose{j}}B_j = 0
for m > 0, and B0 = 1..
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In this question,
 


Where the bernoulli numbers , , , , , , .

Now, a smart thing to do would be to take the summation only till . Otherwise, simplification becomes difficult with terms like on the R.H.S.



 
 
  (on putting the values of the coefficients)

Now add to both side to get,
 
 
 
 
 
 .
 
Compare this equation with the one given in the question to see that

 ,  , , , , ,  .

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the bernouli number stuff is called faulkhabers series
but i dont think that we need to use anything that advanced
this the question of undertermined coefficient
this is an identity
 
EDIT :see the process below

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It becomes very tedious with substitutions. I personally am not fond of evaluating 3^7 or so on..anyway 3 equations are not sufficient.

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For the 2nd part of your question, i.e the general case:
 


Hence coefficient of
The coefficients give you the value of A,C,D,E.... and so on.

Now add to both sides of the equation.
Hence, the coefficient of will be . This is the value of B.

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true that three equation stuff is too complicated!!!!!!!!!
and lengthy too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 
 
 
using principle of undertermined coeficient
1^6.......+n^6=An^7+Bn^6...................+H
right
1^6+............+n^6+(n+1)^6=A(n+1)^7............+H
2eq-1eq
(n+1)^7=A((n+1)^7-n^7)..................+G((n+!)-n)
expand and group
(6C0+6C1n+........)=A(7C6)n^6+(A7C5+B6C5)n^5+.............
equating coefinient of like terms on both side
a=6C6/7C6
A=1/7
proceed same way to for all
 
by the way given three equation in any no. of variable
provided thier degree is same and they are non consistent in all variable (which is true inthis case)
can be solved

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ya, 3 equations are enough since they are not consistent. missed that point earlier.
 
By the way man111, are the answers correct?

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yes absolutely correct.
and for second i thing it is correct.
and i am just asking for a general formula.
 
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