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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 17 Jan 2008 21:40:36 IST
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Find all the values of (x,y) for the equation. 1+ 2x + 22x +1 = y2
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...  is always greater than 0 for all values of 'x'.. Hence, for every value of x belonging to real numbers, you will have 2 corresponding values of y. There are infinite number of solutions...
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 18 Jan 2008 23:46:51 IST
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IF (x,y) are integers . How to solve the equation ?
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 19 Jan 2008 00:10:17 IST
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edited : check my last post down below for solution
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 19 Jan 2008 00:26:29 IST
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your method looks OK but you have got the eqation wrong this time.
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 19 Jan 2008 00:49:46 IST
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shajikoshy!
first of all 2^x is defined and positive for all x => x R
Now, let 2^x = t
=> 1 + 2^x + 2^(2x+1) = 1 + 2^x + 2 * 2^(2x) = 1 + 2^x + 2 * (2^x)^2 = 1 + t + 2t^2
let f(t) = 2t^2 + t + 1
it has minima at t = -1/4, f(-1/4) = 7/8 and always increasing after that. (actually an opening upward parabola with vertex at (-1/4, 7/8)
but t = 2^x which can't be -ve, so we will consider minimum possible value of t
that is when x-> - => 2^x -> 0 => t -> 0
f(t) -> 1 when t -> 0
so f(t) has range (1, ) => y^2 = f(t) has same range => y has same range
Thus,
x R and y (1, ) ANS
sorry for any miscalculations!!!
konichiwa2x!
why are you taking 1 + 2^x + 2^(x+1), it is 1 + 2^x + 2^(2x+1)
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Sorry for typing mistakes, please try to understand the symbols ...
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 19 Jan 2008 08:36:21 IST
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I appreciate your efforts to solve this problem. The answer i was looking for (x,y) was (0,2), (0,-2), (4, 23), (4,-23) which are the only solution in integers. I found this by trial and error. But i still believe their is a way to solve this equation.
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 21 Jan 2008 14:10:28 IST
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yes sorry...made a mistake...i'll try to do it another way and get back to u (got an idea..but let me try it out now)
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 22 Jan 2008 12:11:44 IST
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ok I think i got it! Clearly (x,y) = (0,±2) gives one pair of solutions, and there are no solutions for x=1. Equally clearly there can be no solutions with x<0. If x>1, let  . Then  , or  . Therefore  . So one of the numbers y+1+w, y-1-w must be a power of 2, and the other must be 7 times a power of 2. Suppose that  . Then  . Thus  . The left side of this equation is an odd multiple of 2, hence so is the right side, and this can only happen if n=1. Then  , from which m=5 and x=4. This gives the solutions (x,y)=(4,±23). The other possibility is that  . A similar analysis to the previous paragraph leads to the equation  . But a power of 2 can only be congruent to 1, 2 or 4 (mod 7), not to -1. So this equation has no integer solutions. Therefore the only solutions are (x,y) = (0,±2) or (4,±23)!
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 23 Jan 2008 03:12:39 IST
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and i edited my prev post.. sorry for the mistake in my first attempt.
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