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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 25 Mar 2008 09:04:42 IST
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Sum up the series :
S = 1/2 + 2/3 + 3/4 + .........n/(n+1) 
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 25 Mar 2008 09:21:40 IST
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i dont think this may be possible bcos it reduces to n - (1/2 + 1/3.............) which amounts to finding the sum of an Hp of n terms which hasnt been done till now
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 25 Mar 2008 09:37:24 IST
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Can't we proceed using binomial theorem for the later part
(1 - x) ^ n = C0 - C1x + C2 x^2 - C3 x^3 ......+(-1)^n x^n so we can write it like,
1 - (1-x)^n / x = C1 - C2 x^2 + C3 x^3 - ...+( -1)Cn x^n-1
or [0] [1] 1 - (1- x)^n / 1 - (1-x) = [ C1x + C2 x^2/2 - C3 x^3/3 ......+(-1)^n x^n/n ]
wont this give the required value for the later part?
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 25 Mar 2008 09:46:42 IST
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no it wont as the nr is 1 for all :)
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 25 Mar 2008 09:52:23 IST
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Yes but we need numerator like 1/2,1/3,1/4......then?please be a little more clear.
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 25 Mar 2008 09:53:59 IST
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NO I MEANT: The series sum = n - (1/2 + 1/3 + 1/4 + 1/5........) You cannot get 1 in all the nrs by using binomial methods as Cr not = 1 for all r :)
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 25 Mar 2008 09:59:59 IST
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well actually tht is equal to 1 - log0 so v cant do nethin wid it :\ log(1+x) = x -x^2/2 + x^3/3... as x->-1 this tends to -1 -1/2-1/3-1/4...
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 25 Mar 2008 10:01:30 IST
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[0] [1] 1 - (1- x)^n / 1 - (1-x) = [ C1x + C2 x^2/2 - C3 x^3/3 ......+(-1)^n x^n/n ]
= [0] [1] {1 + (1-x) + (1-x) ^2 + ......+(1-x)^n-1 }dx
= [ x + (1-x)^2/-2 + ( 1-x)^3/-3 +.....+(1-x)^n/-n ] within limits of 0 to 1
= 1 + 1/2 + 1/3 + ......+1/n
= C1 - 1/2 C2 + 1/3 C3 - .....+(-1) ^ n-1 1/n Cn
We need the L.H.S only.
So now the problem becomes = n -[C1 - 1/2 C2 + 1/3 C3 - .....+(-1) ^n-1 1/n Cn]
Isn't it? I was speaking of this.
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 25 Mar 2008 10:02:36 IST
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who said 1/r * Cr = 1??? as to computer001 's method, unfortunately, log(1+x) is an infinite series while we want sum to n terms :)
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 25 Mar 2008 10:03:37 IST
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i havent inspected this closely, but i dont think this can be done. sandeep is right. you wont be able to get rid of the nCr terms..
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 25 Mar 2008 10:09:52 IST
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yeah i realised tht but u cud consider n is suff large n after tht it becomes practically negligible..
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 25 Mar 2008 10:15:17 IST
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Oh wow ! Heavy discussion going on. 
Guys let go off this question, no point wasting time , I have asked a dozen people but none came up with a positive answer, so I think this series cannot be summed up.
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 25 Mar 2008 10:33:16 IST
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I never said 1/r Cr = 1  .
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 25 Mar 2008 11:00:51 IST
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S = 1/2 + 2/3 + 3/4 + .........n/(n+1)
Write S as (1-1/2) + (1-1/3) + (1-1/4)...... 1-1/(n+1) S = n -(1/2 + 1/3 + 1/4 + ....1/n+1)
Now can anyone tell me how to proceed further?
EDIT: Oops sandeep had posted it already.
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