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Hi, I got this idea from conjurer. You can post any inequality question that you came across. So this can be like a database for inequalities.
 
Here is one. If prove that

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the upper bound..

multiply both sides by 2^ 1998
rhs becomes (odd prod.).2^999 / 999!
this is nothing but 1998C999...

now it becomes something like a = 2nCn / 2^2n.
rhs is always less than 1/2n+1..( 2^2n/2nCn > 2n+1 )
hence it becomes a>1/1999...

Diamonds r formed under greatest pressures..
so r the champs.


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	ext {The 2nd part is easy} \ \

	ext {We have}  1  rac{3} {2} .  rac {5} {4} ... rac{1999} {1998} ge 1 \ \

	ext {Hence}  a ge rac {1} {1999}
 
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also 2nd part can be done by Wierstrass
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good going madness. post it, many will benefit
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i dont know how to use latex properly Help?
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use texer and paste. but our editor is good enough for weierstrass.
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a = 1/2 *3/4 *5/6 * ....1997/1998
so a > 1/2 *3/4 *5/6 * .....1997/1998 * 1998/1999
because multiplying by a number less than 1
now cancel that 1998 with 1998
and shift all terms in numerator by 1 place to left
we get
a> 3/2 * 5/4 * ......1997/1996 * 1/1999
which is > 1*1*1* ....1/1999
i m making all fractions > 1 as 1
so
a>1/1999
 
now
a = 1/2 *3/4 *5/6 * ....21/22 * ......
a = 1/2 *21/22  * 3/4 * 5/6 * ...... shifting 21/22 left
a < 1/2 *21/22 * 4/3 * 5/6 * 8/7 * 9/10 .....
i m making 3/4 as 4/3 and 7/8 as 8/7
so cancelling 3 and 7 with 21
a< 1/2 * 1/22 * 4* 8 * 5/6 * 9/10 * .....
a< 1/44 *( 4 *8 * 11/12 * 13/14 .1997/1998)...
denominator using product series is more than 32 times the numerator
so the bracket is <1
so a <1/44
 
 
 
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hsbhatt will post the soln later ok? Am busy now :D
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that was very nice sboosy!
 

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Here is another way of proving it.
 
If , then to prove the inequality  it seems natural to guess that It should be easy enough to prove that by induction.

The other inequality, , looks harder. One approach would be to write . Then you can use the inequality . That would give  
Hence you can go on to show that  

Edit:  a better approach is to notice that ?(1998)=44.69... . That suggests the inequality  another straightforward induction proof

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Hi
I have a proof widout induction.
Ive encountered dis method b4 bt
culdn rem xactly...
 

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Now use the derived inequality..
u get the reqd result
If im rt
u get sumthin like
1/21000<S<1/1999
frm dat the reqd result is obv.
 
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continuation of  proof attached

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But I guess
Wiestrass inequality is the most elegant way of proving the second part
Wiestrass inequality states

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