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Question: \text{If } x+\frac{1}{x}=1 \text{ then find } x^{4000}+\frac{1}{x^{4000}}


I used two different methods and i am getting different answers from both the methods, pls explain why?

Method 1 :

x+\frac{1}{x}=1 \\  x^2-x+1=0 \\  x=-\omega,-\omega^2 \\    \rightarrow x^{4000}+\frac{1}{x^{4000}}=\omega^{4000}+\frac{1}{\omega^{4000}}=\frac{ \omega ^2+1}{\omega} \\   =\frac{-\omega}{\omega}=-1

Method 2:

squaring both sides again and again of x+\frac{1}{x}=1 we get a general result

x^{2^n}+\frac{1}{x^{2^n}}=1-2n

now putting n=11 we get
 x^{2048}+\frac{1}{x^{2048}} = -21 \\  \text{ and by putting n=12 we get } x^{4096}+\frac{1}{x^{4096}} =-23 \\  \text{this means } x^{4000}+\frac{1}{x^{4000}} \text{ should be around -23 and not -1 as we get from method 1}

please explain why is the answer coming different in the two cases?

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method one is right and for method two the general result u arrived is wrong
it is not 1-2n
but on right hand side it is 1-2 =-1 hence answer is -1

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but ankur i find that the general result is true and is being obeyed for n=0,1,2,3.......

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how is it -1  on the right side

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what values of x did u put in the second method

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radon...in 2nd method x^(2^n)+ 1/x^(2^n)= -1 always ie it come
(1-2) not 1-2n pl chkup

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  sorry that was a real silly mistake i got my doubt cleared myself....I like a fool was not squaring right hand side and kept squaring left hand side...sorry to waste everyone's time(and mine too)

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The first method looks fine.
In the 2nd method
squaring u will get
(x^2n+1/x^2n+2=1)[(a+b)^2=a^2+b^2+2ab]
So ur general result in the end comes out to be wrong.
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