sign up I login
 advanced
refer a friend - earn nickels!!

Ask & Discuss Questions with Community & Experts

Moderation Team
 90 chars left    advanced
Ask iit jee aieee pet cbse icse state board community Community Discussion Question: Yet another polynomial prob
Forum Index -> Algebra like the article? email it to a friend.  
Author Message
hsbhatt (4985)

Forum Expert Blazing goIITian

Olaaa!! Perrrfect answer. 939  [1084 rates]

hsbhatt's Avatar

total posts: 1501    
online Online

f(z) is a non-constant polynomial with real coefficients such that for some real number a, we have


f(a) \ne 0, f


Prove that f(z) cannot have all roots real.


I happen to know the official solution. So, only original looking solutions get rated.


Time wounds all heels
    
feynmann (2236)

Forum Expert Blazing goIITian

Olaaa!! Perrrfect answer. 404  [512 rates]

feynmann's Avatar

total posts: 815    
offline Offline

write f(x)=c\prod(x-\alpha_{i})} ,where \alpha_{i} s are the roots of the polynomial


given that f(a) !=0 whch means none of the roots are a .


Now we get f'(a)=0


so taking logarithm of both sides and then taking derivative at x=a , we obtain


\sum{\frac{1}{a-\alpha_{i}}=0   ......(2)


again taking the derivative of f'(x ) at x=a and imposing the condition that f''(a)=0 , we get using (2)


\sum{\frac{1}{(a-\alpha_{i})^2}=0  ....(3)


but it is given that a is real . So if all the roots are real then surely (3)can't hold true .


Hence proved .




 


 

 this reply: 15 points  (with Olaaa!! Perrrfect answer.   in 3 votes )   [?]
 
You have to be logged on to rate
  
hsbhatt (4985)

Forum Expert Blazing goIITian

Olaaa!! Perrrfect answer. 939  [1084 rates]

hsbhatt's Avatar

total posts: 1501    
online Online

thats the solution i was looking for!


A bit of clarification may be required here:


We have for a polynomial f(x) with roots \alpha_i:


\frac{f


Since f'(a) = f"(a) = 0, we have


\sum_{i=1}^n \frac{1}{(x-\alpha_i)^2} = 0


Time wounds all heels
 this reply: 0 points  (with Olaaa!! Perrrfect answer.   in 0 votes )   [?]
 
You have to be logged on to rate
  
 
Forum Index -> Algebra
Go to:   

Top Offers for goIITians
Correspondence Courses
Brilliant Tutorials
Narayana Institute
Aakash Institute
Classroom/Crash Courses
Narayana - Kota , Delhi , Others
Brilliant Tutorials - Class , Crash
Aakash Institute - Medical , Engg
Online Test Series
Brilliant Tutorials
Narayana Institute
Aakash Institute
Mahesh Tutorials
AMITY      Sri Chaitanya