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New IIT entrance pattern: What it means for the aspirants

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New IIT entrance pattern: What it means for the aspirants
Engineering Entrance , JEE Main , JEE Advanced , academic , Exam Date and Pattern

The IIT K director recently disclosed that the new entrance system will give 50% weightage to the new entrance test score( essentially, a test which will  be JEE+aptitud equestions+GK(?)) and 50% weightage to the board percentiles. However, a lot of you might be confused as to how it will work

As CBSE is the most popular board around, I ll analyse the impact of the new scheme on CBSE aspirants.

Analysing percentile vs percentage charts from a recently conducted CBSE exam(http://www.docstoc.com/docs/36701910/CBSE-Percentile), we get the following conversions(rounded off):

97.xx % = 100 percentile = 50/50
95% = 97.2 percentile       = 48.6/50
90% = 92 percentile         = 46/50
88% =90 percentile          = 45/50
85% =87 percentile           = 43.5/50
80% = 82 percentile         = 41/50

As serious IIT aspirants, you ought to get at least 80 in the boards. Although there are quite afew students with board scores less than 80%  at IIT, it was a case of negligence(maybe smart-thinking) on their part as board scores didnt matter during our time. However, once you know that board scores will affect your selection, you will take them seriously and all candidates who feel they can crack JEE should easily get 85-90 in CBSE(trust me) if they put in the minimum effort required. So I wont mention the other conversions here.

Now I'll use the IIT JEE 2010 results(http://www.jee.iitk.ac.in/oldinfo.php) in the next part of my analysis.

Rank 1  -418/ 489           =  42.7/50
Rank 501 - 304/ 489       =  31.1/50
Rank 1001- 283/489       =  28.9/50
Rank 2001- 259/489       =  26.5/50
Rank 3001- 243/489       =  24.8/50
Rank 4001- 231/489       =  23.6/50
Rank 5001- 220/489       =  22.5/50
Rank 6001- 212/489       =  21.7/50
Rank 7001- 205/489       =  21/50
Rank 8001- 198/489       =  20.2/50
Rank 9001- 193/489       =  19.7/50
Using Extrapolation, we get the foll. figures.(The foll  distribution might be different)
Rank 12001-180/489      =   18.4/50
Rank  15001 -171/489     =    17.5/50

What does all this mumbo-jumbo mean:

The percentile distribution for board marks is almost linear. You gain .5/100 points for scoring 1% more in the boards. However, for each 1000 ranks you get more than 1/100 points in the top 5000 rank region(the old IITs cutoff). So JEE is going to play a more decisive role than the boards, but a 94-95% makes life much easier. Work hard to get at least 88%(90 percentile) in the boards and give your best for JEE. Guys shaping up for a top 500 rank can afford to get around 85%(don't sue me for this ;) ), but the rest need to be in excess of 90% to have a fair chance. Note that the percentile vs percentage distribution will change if people focus more on the boards. So don't take the boards lightly and try to build an advantage before JEE.

Another fall-out of the new pattern might be a virtual state quota. As the top x% students of each state will be at the same level, states like Rajasthan, Delhi  & AP, which produce most of the IITians will be at a slight disadvantage as far as the board percentiles are concerned. Even the CBSE & ICSE boards which tend to have brighter students than the state boards might be a curse for their students.

As far as student-stress levels are concerned, they are bound to shoot up. Earlier, one would just focus on JEE, knowing that they had back-up in the form of AIEEE, BITSAT & state exams. One didn't need to care about the boring board exams and just needed to ensure that they got more than the qualifying score. Now, one has to work for the boards and prepare for a be all to end all exam.  One bad day and you are in deep trouble. God knows what Sibbal is trying to achieve.

All the best guys.

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Cool goIITian

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26 Sep 2011 00:14:32 IST
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Guys, the new pattern might be more stressful, but you still have the power to write your destiny. Make the most of the time you have!

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26 Sep 2011 11:30:03 IST
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i don't see why an aspiring engineer being made to cram curret affairs.D system will not ensure d entry of bright science students but dumb ratoo totas....

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The IIT alumni and the students are trying to register their protest, but I am not sure it will work. The good news is that the IIT-M director(who wasn't a btech from IIT) in favour of including the boards has been replaced by a professor who had done his btech at IIT. So there is some hope of stalling the new system by convincing the IIT directors(who make up the all important IIT-council) As far as current affairs q's are concerned, I don't think they'll carry a lot of weight. Plus, you just need to read the newspaper everyday to answer these questions. So don't worry. The new exam will test raw intelligence through aptitude questions and the student's scientific fundamentals through PCM questions. While anybody can do well at the boards, only the good candidates will do well in the entrance test. So the key is to get a good score in the boards and a very good rank in JEE.Remember guys: Rattoos might do well in the boards but wont get anywhere in the entrance test. However, intelligent blokes can do well at both.

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28 Sep 2011 11:18:55 IST
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this is shit.

if a person does well in the boards , it doesn't mean he is truly competent as can be easily by matching the toppers list in iitjee and the boards.

there may be a few exceptions though.

like this darvyansh sharma. he got AIR 7 in iitjee 2011 and scored some 98. something percent in the boards!!!

well coming back to the point i really thing what sibbal has done is very wrong.

i myself dont hope to score anything near 90% percent. i know i won't cause i am not preparing for this.

i believe in knowledge and not only cramming for the exams (as is needed for the boards).

this doesn't mean that we should discard the boards.

they have their own importance.

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28 Sep 2011 11:20:41 IST
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The normalisation is not going to work. How can the 75th percentile of cbse board be same as that of the sikkim or himachal board. The profile of the students are completely different. One advantage would be that after class 10 there will be migration of students to few particular boards leading to national integration!!!( After all this was what was envisaged by our forefathers while framing the constitution. ). If they really want to introduce the aptitude test the correct scheme should be to first use it as a screening test say at the end of class 11 in July of the year and select 5-7 times the anticipated seats of next year for appearing in a subjective IIT JEE. A corelation can then be established between the aptitude test and the requirement of the IIT JEE by studying the ranks in aptitude tests vis a vis the subjective IIT JEE for at least 8-10 years and only after a positive corelation is established should the IIT JEE be replaced with the so called aptitude test. How ironic that IIT introduced the JEE in the sixties after finding that board marks had no corelation with the actual aptitude of a student and now wanting to go back to sixties. God help the reputation of the undergraduate courses of the IIT's.

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28 Sep 2011 11:58:19 IST
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@hemang: If u r in CBSE and if u r well prepared for JEE you'll easily get an 85-90 score in the boards(I ve done it and so have most of my pals @ IIT), but to ensure a 90+ , you might have to put in more effort. See maths and chem are subsets of the JEE syllabus and you should be striking 90+ without any extra effort. so dont worry and give it ur best.

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28 Sep 2011 12:04:58 IST
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@kumarm: I was discussing a similar proposal with a friend a few years ago. A screening in 11th followed by mains after 12th.(split portion) But the aptitude test screening + standard JEE sounds like a better idea. If only Sibbal would listen.

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@Anupam: This way only about 75000 students would be studying for IIT JEE in class 12 and at least the so called turnover of the private coaching institute would be considerably reduced. The rest 4 lakhs students would be completely at the disposal of various boards in class 12. Parents would also know, after screening rejection, that instead of focussing on IITJEE it is the class 12board which is now more important with ample time to give attention to it.

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26 Mar 2012 14:00:21 IST
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hmm... i thnk its a gd idea of having an equal weightage of 12th boards n entrance xms in selection in iits n niits!! bt...it s quite stressfull...as we hav to put more focus on our 12th boards..

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