Some important and lesser known points in Organic chem.

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Some important and lesser known points in Organic chem.

Hey frnds,
I have collected some important and not-so-known points of organic chemistry from my notes and assembled them here.
GOC
1-Carbocation stability- Ring expansion should always be given higher priority than tertiary carbocation.
2- If some unknown reactants are given to U and if U cant decide how to start, always give first priority to an acid-base reaction.
3- Carbene(:CCl2)- Triplet is more stable than singlet.



For :CF2- Singlet is more stable than triplet as it can have back-bonding in singlet carbene due to the presence of an empty orbital.
4- Benzyne - The inductive effect(and not resonance) of the group attached to benzene decides the orientation of incoming reagent becoz the triple bond of benzyne is sigma bond and not pi-bond.
5- In Ph-NH3+, NH3+ is slightly more para directing than meta(EXCEPTION).
ISOMERISM
1-Tautomerism - Acidic H should be released only from saturated C and not from unsaturated C.
2-Geometrical isomerism is not applicable in alkynes.
3- For a compound to be optically active, it should lag both plane of symmentry as well as centre of symmetry.If anyone of them is present in compound, it wud become optically inactive.
ALCOHOL,PHENOL & ETHER
1- 1,2 v/s 1,4 addition
Mechanisms are shown in figure.
1,4 product - Thermodynamically stable and is produced in long duration(for example-in reaction with NaBH4).



1,2 product- kinetically stable and is produced in short duration(for example- in reaction with LiAlH4).



=> Generally thermodynamically stable product is given.



2- U all must have read the preperation of alcohol by ketone and grignard reagent. There's an exception to this reaction-



Ketone = Me2CH - CO - CHMe2



Grignard Reagent = Me2CH-MgBr



In the reaction with these reagents, alcohol is not formed by the usual mechanism in which R- attacks C=O. In this reaction, the ketone is reduced by H- from grignard reagent. The concerted mechanism in shown in figure.
If we take a ketone/G.R. bigger than this one => No reaction.
If we take a ketone/G.R. smaller than this one => Normal reaction
Means, the steric hindrance of both the molecules matter and not only anyone.
3 - Luca's test- We all know that 3o alcohols give immediate turbidity with luca's reagent. BUT there are 2 more alcohols which are not 3o but still give immediate turbidity with Luca's reagent(dont ask me the mechanism ). They are-
Ph-CH2-OH and CH2=CH-CH2OH



4- Williamson's Etherification -  The halide used should not be aryl halide becoz the reaction wont take place due to partial double bond character of C-X bond by resonance.
Till now I have been able to collect only these points. Will post more as soon as I assemble them.
Hope these points help U in ur exams.
All the best!!!



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Blazing goIITian

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exceptions are usually not asked in the exams..but the article is pretty gud

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14 Jul 2008 19:03:21 IST
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please explain the 5th point of GOC more clearly

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14 Jul 2008 19:17:24 IST
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Thanks a lot. I lack behind in organic chem by a long way. This will surely help.

Blazing goIITian

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14 Jul 2008 19:18:18 IST
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I think 5th point of GOC is wrong, no?

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14 Jul 2008 19:42:58 IST
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@sreeee, I have written there clearly that it is an EXCEPTION. And its not at all wrong.
And who said that exceptions are not asked? They are asked and they really make a big difference.

Blazing goIITian

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14 Jul 2008 21:15:28 IST
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Informative article...thank you.

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14 Jul 2008 21:54:50 IST
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straight bookmarked... :)
thanks tarin 4 d article :)

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16 Jul 2008 22:39:53 IST
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"triple bond of benzyne is sigma bond"
:O
from where did you read that??

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17 Jul 2008 17:37:54 IST
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@anandghegde,
Ya. Do U have any prob in that concept?
Maybe that's why the heading of this article is apt.
NEways, yup. The extra bond in benzyne triple bond is sigma bond NOT pi.

Blazing goIITian

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17 Jul 2008 19:27:28 IST
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Yes i agree too ^^^^^^^^

Blazing goIITian

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17 Jul 2008 21:30:58 IST
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i dint know that :O

Blazing goIITian

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18 Jul 2008 10:50:58 IST
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its OK.
Its gud that this article helped in U in this topic. :D

Blazing goIITian

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18 Jul 2008 23:01:09 IST
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and here it is from the champion himself i wish i cud give u something bigger than a hat for this

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18 Jul 2008 23:06:41 IST
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Well, i dunno... the article is informative, but I clearly recall having studied that the 3rd bond in benzyne is a pi bond formed by hybridised orbitals.. and that this is the only case where hybridised orbitals make pi bonds.

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@ Tarinbansal

http://www.chem.ucalgary.ca/courses/351/Carey/Ch23/ch23-4.html

Blazing goIITian

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19 Jul 2008 12:10:40 IST
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What?? U want me to blv a website?? LOL ROFL!!!
Can U guarantee the authenticity of this website? I dont think so.
And remember, I wud NEVER blv a website over good books and my teachers.
Some of the delhi's best and most experienced faculty has taught me organic chem and I cant blv any website over whatever they have taught me.

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19 Jul 2008 12:13:32 IST
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NICE POINTS IN G.O.C KEEP IT UP

Hot goIITian

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19 Jul 2008 12:14:01 IST
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NICE POINTS ON G.O.C KEEP IT UP

Blazing goIITian

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19 Jul 2008 13:00:06 IST
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In which GOOD book did you read this ?



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