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BEWARE OF LIES ABT MSC.@BITS


 


It has come to light that  a certain site "rutsum.com" is posting blatantly wrong information about BITS and its MSc. Course.


Post  at http://rutsum.com/


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A senior at BITS, Pilani, with the alias messyangel, was kind enough to visit RutSum and share his expertise with us in the form of a long comment on our earlier BITSAT 2008 Cutoff / Predicted Rank post. Though the knowledge shared by him is priceless, I feel that something needs to be added to it, and it needs to be properly formed so that it is clearly visible, readable and easily reachable and referable. So I am making a new post for this and adding my own experience to it.


NITs vs. BITS Hyderabad


BITS Hyderabad has been setup recently. Because of this reason, even though it is a part of the very popular and recognised BITS, Pilani, companies do not prefer do recruit preofessionals from this institute. Rather they would prefer to get engineers from the old, reecognised and well-established NITs. Moreover, recommendation letters from NIT professors hold a lot of value, for the same reason that NITs are well known and old. Moreover, good IT companies rarely come to Hyderabad for campus lift-offs.


B. Tech./B.E. vs M. Sc. (Hons) or M.Sc. (Tech)


Streams are of course different, but the general trend has been that both B.E. graduates and M. Sc. postgraduates land in similar jobs, but the latter (i.e. M. Sc.) are paid lower because their graduation is of 3 years (10+2+3) and 2 years of post-graduate while B.E. have 4 years of engineering (10+2+4). The industry prefers to take 4 year graduates rather than 3 year graduates. Companies like TCS and Infosys train both B.E./B.Tech. guys and M.Sc./M.Tech. guys for the same job, but just because the value of an engineering degree is more than a science degree, the engineer is paid more to do the exactly same job.


Will I get a M.Sc. Dual Degree in BITS?


messyangel, on the other hand, says that at BITS, only the top 10% of the students selected in the M.Sc. (Hons) course are offered the Dual Degree, and not everybody is eligible for it. The exact criteria is if you get a certain GPA (8.5 or above) in the first year, then only can you get a dual degree. Otherwise, if your GPA is lower than 8.5, you just get plain M.Sc (Hons) and not a dual degree.


 



This means that you cannot get a dual degree just by your BITSAT scores, and that M. Sc. (Tech) students CANNOT get a dual degree at BITS at all. Dual degrees are only for M.Sc. (Hons) students, and that too the toppers out of them.



 


The TRUTH IS:


1)BPHC hasn’t even started , and recruitments are 4 yrs away.Profs will be sent from Pilani and Goa Campuses , and new ones will also be recruited THROUGH PILANI CAMPUS ONLY. There will be no compromise on the quality of the faculty.


-Recos from BITS Profs has a lot of value too.MAJORITY OF PROFS AT BITS(ALL CAMPUSES) HAVE A PHD FROM IIT/BITS OR ABROAD.SUCH IS THE STANDARD OF BITS.


2)Companies like TCS ,Infy are bus companies(mass recruiters) and MOST BITSIANS(and also IITIANS) don’t go there.And TCS doesn’t recruit from BITS.


And even then , the info given is wrong. Pure MSc students would be at a disadv , but BITS gives them a BE Degree.That is what decides your placements.


And a PURE MSc at BITS is 4 years long , not 5 yrs.And yes pure MSc ppl would be at a disadv , as they would not have studied any engg subjects.But not in BITS , cuz you get a BE Dual.


3)AND FINALLY THE BIGGEST LIE:ONLY TOPPERS GET A B.E. DUAL.


THIS IS ABSOLUTELY FALSE.ALL MSC HONS STUDENTS GET A BE DUAL.AND THERE ARE APPROX 15-24% SEATS FOR EACH CS , EEE, ENI , MECHANICAL  ,CHEMICAL , CIVIL.(CS , EEE, ENI HAVE MORE).Less than 5% get BPharma.


MSc Tech students don’t get a dual under normal circumstances(only the toppers get).


 


God knows who this Alumni is….I hope he comes to BITS360.com


 

    
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why doesn't bits make such information clear in its prospectus itself?there wouldn't have been so much confusion


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It is written but not that clearly.It does say that ALL MSc Hons students(Group B) will be allowed to work on a Group A(BEs and B.Pharama) courses .....

But yes it isn't clear at all.And also , no other major college has such a scheme , so its even more unfamiliar.

I agree that BITS should make it much more clearer.
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OK, rutsum.com is my site.


I posted this info because I believed that the guy, messyangel was truly a BITS passout. You must understand that I myself am an undergraduate who has just passed out of 12th standard and knows very little about these things.


 


I have no idea who to believe and who not to. How can I be sure that what you claim is true? Do you have any proof supporting the claims you are making? 


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Oh , its your blog?
Well your claims are false.

Catch hold of a BITSian in real-life and talk to him.

Proof?Well the BITS Website says it , and ask any BITSian on BITS360.com , ALL will tell you that every MSc Hons person gets a Dual.People , with as low as 5 CGPA have got Civil/Chemical.
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You Mother Fking arse hole ...If you dont have any info abt a coll then y th fck do you post false info and play with the life of so many aspirants....


@Others It was never intended at bits360


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Now I have official proof, A LINK FROM THE OFFICIAL BITS WEBSITE.


 


http://www.bitsadmission.com/admn/fd/flexibilities.htm 


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To meet the ambitions of the students who could not get admission to B.E.(Hons.)/B.Pharm.(Hons.) programmes, the Institute has created facilities by which any student who is admitted to M.Sc.(Hons.) programmes is accommodated in a dual degree scheme for a second degree in B.E.(Hons.)/B.Pharm.(Hons.) programmes. This assignment is made by competition on their performance at BITS at the end of first year, separately in Pilani, Goa and Hyderabad campuses. Students who have taken Mathematics in BITSAT will be considered under “First Priority” category for allotment of dual degree and almost ensured to get a dual degree allotment. Students who have taken Biology in BITSAT will be required to take additional remedial Mathematics course and they will be able to apply for dual degree only under the “Other priorities” category which is operated after satisfying the known needs of “First Priority” category.



 

 


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@ ruler496:


 


wth??? y r u insulting bits360??? he is only trying to help us...if u dont agree with him then u can go your way dun start abusing ppl..


 


i too am making a decision abt IIT/Bits etc...n bits360 is only trying to help students lik us...so v shud thank him instead


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@computer001 I never insulted bits360 and have great respect for him...You can recheck the post :)

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oh...but still u shudn insult others too...pls edit ur post...no swearing..


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@apoorv Herez the proof that your blog is completely misleading others and that Messyangel is no Bitsian


Herz my cg e-card which clearly shows my dual degree along with my first year CGPA which was only 8.37 not 9.6+ as told be your best friend messyangel...hope you change what you arote on your site after checking out this



My CG after first year - 8.37


My degree- B4A7 - where B4 -means maths A7 -compsci


If still in doubt I can give you my username and password of that site


 


Now got to this link and serach for 2005B in I.D.no...and check out the duals of all students...similarly check out for 2006 batch by typing 2006b...2007 Batch guys did not get their duals till now(will get before they join the college)


http://www.bits-pilani.ac.in:12349/StudentSearch.aspx


B1-Bio


B2-Chem


B3- Eco


B4 - Maths


B5- Physics


A1- Chemical


A2- Civil


A3- EEE


A4 - Mehcanical


A5 - Pharmacy


A7 - COmp Sci


A8 - EIE


@apoorv Hope you change from a being a silly idiotic person to a good student


 


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