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This is a good question
 
if f(x) = [ n + pSinx ] , 0 < x <  , n  I  [ integers ]
 
P here is prime number , if p = 19 then find the no. of points where f(x) is
 
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No , it is not the answer . I will put the solution by today evening.

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A box function, say [ x ], where [x] denotes the greatest integer less than or equal to x, is not differentiable at the integral points or in other words, [ x ] is not differentiable when x is an integer.

Therefore, f (x) = [ n + p sinx ] will not be differentiable when n + p sinx is an integer.

0 < x < , i.e   0 < sin x 1

Since, n is an integer, n + p sinx will be an integer only when p sinx is an integer.

Since, p is a prime = 19, p sinx will be an integer when,

sin x = 1/19, 2/19, 3/19,...........................18 / 19, 19/19

There are 18 values of x lying between 0 and / 2, for which
sin x = 1/19, 2/19, 3/19 ......................18/ 19
At / 2 , sin x = 19 / 19 = 1
Again there are 18 values of x lying between / 2 and , for which
sin x = 1/19, 2/19, 3/19 ......................18/ 19

So, there are in total (18 + 1 + 18) = 37 values of x for given value of n and p = 19, for which f (x) is not differentiable.

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Nice solution

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Good solution Titun , but check out my solution here it is  :
 
f(x) = [ n + pSinx ]
 
f(x) = n + [ pSinx ]
 
So , [ pSinx ] has to be integral .
 
f(x) will be discontinuous of " pSinx " will take integral values.
 
Therefore ,
 
Sinx = 1 , 1/p , 2/p , 3/p , 4/p , ................ ( p-1 ) / p  { (p-1) ways }
 
Or
 
Sinx = -1 , -1/p , -2/p , -3/p , -4/p , .............- (p-1) / p  { (p-1) ways }
 
So overall there can be
 
(2p - 2) ways and +1 way when pSinx = p/p at /2.
 
so total of (2p - 1) ways .
 
Therefore the number of values for which f(x) will be Discontinuous is
 
(2p-1) ,
 
Value of p = 19
 
Therefore , The number of values will be
 
=[ 2(19) - 1 ]
 
=37 values.
 
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I think there is a slight mistake water demon. psinx can never be zero in my opinion, because according to the question, x lies under a strict inequality, ie, it is strictly greater than zero, and strictly less than pi. So, the extra one comes from the situation where sinx = p/p at pi/2.

Anyway, the rest of the solution is convincing and different.

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Ok you are right , thanks for pointing my mistake.
 
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