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Find all solutions to 2x+5x = 3x+4x


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13 Mar 2008 18:43:58 IST
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x=0
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can you prove no other solutions exist?
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trying it
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by dividing by 4x,
(1/2)x + (5/4)x = 1+ (3/4)x
=> (5/4)x = 1+ (3/4)x-(1/2)x
RHS is a decreasing fn while LHS is an inc fn therfore for except at x=0,1 there exists no soln
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2x+5x = 3x+4x
2x + 5x = 3x + 22x
5x - 3x = 22x - 2x
5x - 3x = 2x ( 2x - 1)

2x  =  (5x - 3x ) / ( 2x - 1)
Now for all powers of 5 and 3 which are not 0 and 1, the numbers will be odd...
For x not equal to 0 or 1:
5x is odd, 3x is odd and 2x-1 is odd ( even number -1 )
but in LHS we have an even number.

So equation is only satisfied by x = 0, 1 which we can see.
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Pls rate if im correct .
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annihilator, can you elaborate on that solution. If one is strictly increasing and the other strictly decreasing, so how come 2 solns. Nice approach, but sth needs to be added.

spidey, its not just integer solutions.
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sir isn't this the same kind of qn as this--

http://www.goiit.com/posts/list/differenciation-exponential-eqn-44485.htm
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It is so because for those two values their sum can add upto 5/4 but in greater powers of x their value bcums increasingly samller.

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anchit is right. This has been solved sometime earlier. Yet there is one more approach I want to show you.

Write as 5x-4x = 3x-2x

Consider the function f(x) = xa where a is a constant.

Now f'(x) = axa-1 and f"(x) = a(a-1)xa-2.

Now f"(x) is like acceleration, it measures the rate at which the function is increasing or decreasing. If a0,1 then it is a non-zero number.

But here the rate of increase is zero. This means f"(x) = 0. This means a=0 or a=1.
finito.

@annihilator: sweetheart, it is not for me that I ask for elaborations, but for your friends who will learn something useful.



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