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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 23 Jan 2008 02:01:55 IST
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INTEGRATE THE FUNCTION- f(x)= xf(cosx) FROM 0 to 2 pie ?
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 23 Jan 2008 13:09:05 IST
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f(x)= [0 ] [2pi ] xf(cosx)dx put x=2pi-x in yhis integration. f(2pi-x)= 0 ] [2pi ] (2pi-x)f(cos(2pi-x))dx=2pi 0 [2pi ]f(cosx)dx- 0 ] [2pi ] xf(cosx)dx f(x)=f(2pi-x)=2pi 0 [2pi ]f(cosx)dx-f(x) 2f(x)=2pi 0 [2pi ]f(cosx)dx= f(x)= 0 [2pi ]f(cosx)dx=2 0 [pi ]f(cosx)dx=
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 23 Jan 2008 14:08:42 IST
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ok i think ive got it.... EXCELLENT sum btw...
NOTE : replace the question marks by integral signs.... given f(x)=xf(cosx)-----1
now f(-x)=-xf(cosx) or f(-x)=-f(x) hence it is an odd function...
now f(2pi-x)=(2pi-x)f(cos(2pi-x) =(2pi-x)f(-cosx)=(2pi-x)f(cosx) (becoz its an odd function)
but f(cosx)=f(x)/x
hence we get f(2pi-x)=(2pi-x)f(x)/x
adding f(x) to both sides....
we get f(2pi-x)+f(x)=2pif(x)/x ---------2
now integrating both sides of 2 between 0 and 2pi....
0?2pi f(2pi-x)dx + 0?2pi f(x)dx = 0?2pi 2pif(x)/xdx
but from properties of definite integrals we know that a?b f(a+b-x)dx= a?b f(x)dx
hence we get 0?2pi f(2pi-x)dx=0?2pi f(x)dx
substituting in 2 we get 2 0?2pi f(x)dx=0?2pi 2pif(x)/xdx
or 0?2pi f(x)dx=0?2pi pif(x)/xdx ----3
now put x=x+pi (change of variable)
hence limits change....
we get 0?2pi f(x)dx=-pi?pi pif(pi+x)/(pi+x)dx
but f(pi+x)=(pi+x)f(x)/x
hence 0?2pi f(x)dx=-pi?pi pif(x)/xdx
but this is an even function.... hence -pi?pi pif(x)/xdx = 2 0?pi pif(x)/xdx now put x=x+pi/2
we get 0?2pi f(x)dx=2pi -pi/2?pi/2 f(x+pi/2)/(x+pi/2)dx
but f(x+pi/2)=(x+pi/2)f(-sinx) = -(x+pi/2)f(sinx)
hence 0?2pi f(x)dx=-2pi -pi/2?pi/2 f(sinx)dx but f(sinx) is an odd function hence -pi/2?pi/2 f(sinx)dx =0 hence 0?2pi f(x)dx=0
hence the answer is zero....
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 23 Jan 2008 14:11:34 IST
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just replace the question marks wth integral symbols...
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 23 Jan 2008 19:19:13 IST
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yes i think i have got it plz check above post...
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 23 Jan 2008 19:42:20 IST
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hii
well i went through the solution .. looks great .. i think it is all correct ..
i must congratulate u for the soln .. good work
cheers
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IIT Delhi
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 23 Jan 2008 19:53:46 IST
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thank u!!!
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 23 Jan 2008 21:25:46 IST
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Giving u a simpler soln . Let g'( cosx ) = f ( cos x) ( It can always be written ) so we have , [0 ] [ 2pi] f ( cos x ) dx = g ( cos ( 2pi ) ) - g ( cos ( 0 )) = 0 ...................(1 ) Now let I = given integral change x to 2 pi - x. so the integral becomes I = [ 0] [2pi ] 2pi f ( cos x ) dx - I ( since f( cos ( 2pi -x ) )= f ( cos x ) ) So we get I = pi f ( cos x ) dx = 0 ( by 1 )
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 23 Jan 2008 21:34:47 IST
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@feynmann see integral f(x) is asked not integral f(cosx).....hope u understood the flaw...
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 23 Jan 2008 21:59:32 IST
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Hey , we have to integrate x f( cos x ) right ? I have done the integration.
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 23 Jan 2008 22:13:56 IST
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ok yes ur right there my mistake.....
but something seems to be wrong in this step...[0 ] [ 2pi] f ( cos x ) dx = g ( cos ( 2pi ) ) - g ( cos ( 0 )) = 0 is this valid for any f ?? just plot the function e^cos(x) and see http://www.pa.uky.edu/~phy211/graph_applets/plot_graph.html
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 23 Jan 2008 22:42:38 IST
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see trigonometric fn s. are clsed under the opn diff & integration . so I can always write g'( cos x ) = f( cos x ) or , equivalently indefinite integral of f( cos x ) dx = fn of cosx ( see trig fns are inter convertible ) The point will become clear when u replace cos x by Re ( e^ ix ) whose differentiation & integration yields the same fn . The part that u have mentioned is nothing but an application of fundamental theorem . Hope , u got it !!!!!!!!
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 23 Jan 2008 22:46:05 IST
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but on plotting and checking we dont get zero area thats what im saying....i just arbitrarily chose e^cosx plot it and see for urself the area is not zero between zero and 2pi....plz explain this anomaly.... but wat im asking is how does the area always equal zero......
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