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\text {If} \ f(x) = (x^n-1)^n \\ \\

\text {Then find} \ f^{n}(1)

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f(x) = x (n-1)n
1st derivative is
n(n-1)x [(n-1)n -1]
this way we get n the derivative as
(n(n-1)-0) (n(n-1) -1) (.....) ( n(n-1) - (n-1) * x (n(n-1) - n)
x = 1
so we get
(n(n-1)-0) (n(n-1) -1) (.....) ( n(n-1) - (n-1))
of the form
t(t-1)(t-2)(t-3) ..(t-(n-1))
[n(n-1)] ! / [n(n-2)] !
 
 
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hey, you've noted down the function wrongly i think.

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is it n!(0) =0


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I think it is
nC0(2n)!-nC1(2n-1)!+nC2(2n-2)!-....+nCn(n)!
 
Binomially expanding the function,
nC0x2n-nC1x2n-1+nC2x2n-2-.....nCnxn
now after taking n derivatives power of derivative keeps reducing and so we have
2n*(2n-1)...1=2n!, (2n-1)! and so on

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elasti: just verify your answers substituting n=1, n=2 etc. the expression does not become zero at the nth derivative.
 
akhil also needs to check his working.
 
 

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P=(2n!)
ci =nCr
c0P-c1P/2n+c2P/(2n)(2n-1)-c3P/(2n)(2n-1)(2n-2)+...
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is it (n^n)*(n!)

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That's fantastic computer001, just go ahead and post ur solution

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f(x)=(x^n-1)^n
1st derivative=(n^2)((x^n-1)^n-1)*x^n-1
now basically we need to bother only abt the terms in which differentiation of (x-1)^n goes on as in the other terms when u later substitue x=1 they become 0 anyway..in the nth derivative the (x-1)^n term which was there initially becomes(x-1)^0..so this term alond with its coeff and x power sometihng is the only 1 which does not become 0 for x=1..the coeff of this will be n^n*n! as on each diff 'n' is contributed due to the x^n inside the bracket and overall n! is produced due to continuous diff of the initial (...)^n..



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i din do ne calculations so i cant exactly post a 'solution'..this is the way i reasoned it out...hope its clear..

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the answer is right. great job computer!

 But, any volunteers for a working that can be easily understood.

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