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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 23 Feb 2008 09:22:07 IST
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Let S = r - 2r2 + 3r3 - 4r4+... Sr = r2 - 2r3 + 3r4 - Hence S(1+r) = r - r2 + r3 -.... or S(1+r) = r/(r+1) or S = r/(r+1)2 Now taking limit as r  1, we get r 1 S = 1/4 Also r 1 S = r 1 r - 2r 2 + 3r 3 - 4r 4+... = 1 - 2 + 3 - 4 + .... Now 1 - 2 + 3 - 4 + .... = (1+2+3+4+...) - 2(2+4+6+8+...) = (1+2+3+4+...) - 4(1+2+3+4+...) = -3(1+2+3+4+...) Hence 1+2+3+4+... = -1/12. What's going on here?!!!!!
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 23 Feb 2008 09:58:35 IST
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well this is just an attempt but i think the case goes wrong in the second step where s is multiplied with r especially for the case when r 1 it can also be multiplied with r^2 and in that case a different result is obtained just an attempt plz correct me if i m wrong
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 23 Feb 2008 10:37:32 IST
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But is anyhting wrong with what is done above?
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 23 Feb 2008 10:39:01 IST
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Sir i meant that u will get many solns in that case (inwhich s is multiplied with r and r tends to 1) it can also be multiplied with r ^2 or r^3 etc
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 23 Feb 2008 10:47:30 IST
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Hey wait, what did you get by multiplying with r2? I checked with r3, you get the same result. It comes back to what is going on here?
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 23 Feb 2008 10:54:17 IST
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Sir it comes something like this S(1+r2)=r-2r2+3r3-4r4+......... this is an AGP sequence
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 23 Feb 2008 11:14:19 IST
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Just check your working, I don't think you will be able to evaluate the limit when you mutilpy by r2. I mean if you try S(1-r2), you will get a geometric sum, with no limit when r tends to 1. If you multiply by r3 and in general odd powers of r, you will get the limit as 1/4. So no probs about the value of the limit
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 23 Feb 2008 11:17:51 IST
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yes Sir thats what i m also getting unable to evalute the limit when multiplied with r^2
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 23 Feb 2008 11:28:25 IST
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Sir then the result does come out to be different for r^2 i think there lies the hint the limit comes as 1/4 only for odd powers of r
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 23 Feb 2008 11:30:02 IST
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anyone with any inputs on this one?
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 23 Feb 2008 11:38:31 IST
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yes bhattji ..but pls correct me if wrong actually u have used that r-r^2+r^3 ...= r/r+1 but sum of infinite series only can b written like that and for that r<1 and secondly there is some ambiguity with 1-2+3 ... as it cud b positive for odd n anyway that i think is not a problem except that r /r+1 i think is not right
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 23 Feb 2008 11:42:32 IST
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Actually, this is a famous result by a great mathematician. And an accepted result. But it made no sense to me. Apparently it does to a lot of guys. I wanted to see your reactions to it. sboosy i compared the limit of two equivalent expressions when r tends to 1. I didnt equate them for r=1.
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 23 Feb 2008 11:46:35 IST
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 23 Feb 2008 11:47:57 IST
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My point is sir ..how in the first place u got r-r^2+r^3...as r/r+1
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 23 Feb 2008 11:49:20 IST
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