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A plastic circular disc of radius R is placed on a thin oil film, spread over a flat horizontal surface. The torque required to spin the disc about its central vertical axis with a constant angular velocity is proportional to______?

(a) R^2     (b) R^3     (c) R^4      (d) R^6


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 The Friction is responsible to provide the centripetal acc. and the friction rises from the force applied.

T = r x F........eq1 

F = 1/2 I w2.............eq2

I = k r2..........eq3

From eq2 and eq3

F is proportional to r2

T is thrfr proportional to r3

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Arjun Virmani sir,

the answer is 4 as given to us in our answer key in the test conducted by our coaching class.

Would you please reconsider the question?

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I mean ...


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21 Jan 2012 22:07:35 IST
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Yeah it is R^4... But how did u get it??
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8 Mar 2012 20:13:36 IST
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the error is in eq2

F =! 1/2   I w2

It is actually Energy = 1/2   I w2

thats an error i'll look to it !


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The moment of inertia of the circular disc through the central axis(I) :mr^2/2.   -------- eq(1)

 

torque(T)=r x F --------eq(2)

 

F=moment of inertia x angular acceleration-----------eq(3)

 

angular acceleration =r x angular velocity-----------eq(4)

take angular velocity to be w.

substitutin eq(4) in eq(3),we get

force  F=mr^2/2 x r x w.

             =mr^3 x w/2.---------eq(5)

substituting eq(5) in eq(2)

 

we get 

 

torque T=(r x mr^3 x w)/2

                =(mr^4 x w )/2

ans:(C)

thus torque T is proportional to r^4

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Oh!! physics got murdered !!, surprised...look at the above ans friends, by gocul, invension of two new formula# eq aa 3 and equ 4.#. the next noble price to u manh...wejl done...ppl r trying to justify w9 given am6 anpsd3..
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how do u give the ans. guys i dont know!! u dont know urself how blindly u r trying hard to justify the ans...arjun virmani sir pls give me ewwplanation why disc needs centripital force...sir i think if disc p rotates every particle get centripital force d by w9 sorrunding particals cgi being s rigid body. the work of ewwternal torque is to work against frictionajl tarque so that net torque is zero and body rmotates wid constant angular velocity. my ans is b.
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 I got B too...

but the answer is C..

strangely enough.....

even if we check dimension of torque there is L3 in it...

i don't understand why C..




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