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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 23 Apr 2008 20:50:05 IST
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A very long straight uniformly charged thread carries a charge ?(LAMBDA) per unit length.Find the magnitude... and direction of the electric field strength at a point which is at a distance 'y' from the thread and lies on the perpendicular passing through one of the thread's end. I HAVE TRIED THIS QUESTION BY APPLYING GAUSS'S THEOREM BUT I M NOT GETTING THE CORRECT ANSWER AND ALSO I DON'T KNOW HOW TO FIND THE DIRECTION.THE ANSWERS IS E=[k?(2)^1/2]/y The vector E is directed at the angle 45 to the thread. plzz solve my problem its I.E.IRODOV'S problem number 3.14 Additional Details^:raised to the power
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 23 Apr 2008 21:22:03 IST
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you cannot apply gauss law to this problem as there is no symmetry you have to consider a small piece of length dx at distance x from the end and then find the field due to it at that point then resolve it into components then integrate them from 0 to infinity separately then again find equivalent vector.
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 23 Apr 2008 21:29:03 IST
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 23 Apr 2008 21:31:37 IST
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Hope you noted that dEx = dE x cos@ and alike for the vertical component... I didnt mention it.
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 23 Apr 2008 22:16:54 IST
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yarr i didn't understood which angle is 'a' and how did u set the limits from 0 to 90
plzz explain...
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 23 Apr 2008 22:21:04 IST
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and plzz explain why there is no symmetry...
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 23 Apr 2008 22:32:17 IST
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Dear jasbir:
We have to basically evaluate the integral
kLy [0 ] [infinity ] dx/(x2+y2)3/2
to solve this integral, we have to use the substitution x = ytana
where a is any arbitrary angle... its just used to simplify the integral.
Also, to change the limits:
When x= infinity, tana = infinity , hence, a = pi/2 (As tan-1infinity = pi/2)
When x = infinity, tan a = 0, hence a = 0.
(Where tan a = x/y)
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 23 Apr 2008 22:48:32 IST
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any more problems jasbir?
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 23 Apr 2008 23:03:52 IST
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well ....... @ karthik :
brilliant method ..........
but i wud like to mention ...that ......last year .....when i had been to the
bt programme ..... the proff. there solved this very same sum by the
Gauss Theorem ............. !!!!!
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 23 Apr 2008 23:15:04 IST
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Well... I thought over it, but ended up with this:
E.ds = Qin/ o
But Qin = infinity :(
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 23 Apr 2008 23:15:45 IST
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I probably need to open up my mind to think of a better guassian surface... I'll think over this one. You've given me something to ponder about studyid :)
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 23 Apr 2008 23:17:43 IST
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ya sure .......... i am preparing the method .........
just wait a few minutes .........i am doing the needful .....
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 23 Apr 2008 23:34:37 IST
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Well here is the method :
Let us suppose the gaussian surface as shown ...
now the direction electric field due to the line charge will be towards the right ....
making some angle theta with the horizontal ....
compare the the first figure with the second figure ..
by comparison .......
we see ....
that
2Ecos (theta) = lamba / 2*Pi*Epsilon0 *y
and by symmetry .. theta = 45 degrees
hence .......
E = lamba / 2*root(2)*Pi*Epsilon0 *y .....
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 23 Apr 2008 23:39:11 IST
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Nice... nice method? You thought of this?
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 23 Apr 2008 23:42:14 IST
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