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Two particles A and B having charges q and 2q resp r placed on a smooth table with a seperatrion d. A third particle C is to b clamped on the table in such a way that the particles A and B remain at rest on the table under elevtric forces.What should be the charge on C and where should it b clamped.Plz explain with figure...


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4 Jul 2009 19:33:26 IST
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the charge placed at A=q

the chrarge placed at B=2q

the charge on C=Q

distance between them=d

let a particle C be placed at "x" distance from A.

if A and B should be at rest force avted upon A and B by C must be equal.

So force on A due to C=

So the force on B due to C=

equate these and get the value of "x".

please reply me.

 

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Wrong answer venkat

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i asked you to equate those two equations and fing the answer.

you once again check your calculations.

please reply me.

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I checked it out but i still say u its wrong.......

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Is the answer something like this.

 

And the magnitude of charge is q.

 

If it correct let me know so that I can post the solution :)

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 It is clear from the question that particle C has to be placed between A and B, only than can the forces be balanced.   (1)

 

Let the distance AC = x ;

Hence, the distance BC = (d-x).

Now, for equilibrium, net force on particle C must be 0.

  (neglecting - ve sign value due to (1).)

 

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 It is clearly mentioned in the question that charge C is clamped ..

By observation we see that charge C should be between A and B.

Also note here that before introducing C ..A and B were repelling each othe..hence ..the charge C should attract A and B towards each other. ( finally A and B shud be at rest.)

Hence C shud be negatively charged.( A and B are positively charged a and 2q) ..let charge on C be -Q.

Now let C be at a distance x from A ..i.e. d-x distance from B.

C is clampled ..not bothering C ..

For A and B to be at rest ..the bet force on them should be zero.

Net force on A = kq(-Q)/x^2 + kq(2q)/d^2 = 0

                 hence ..     Q/x^2 = 2q/d^2 ......(1)

Net force on B = k(2q)(-Q)/ (d-x)^2 + k(2q)(q)/d^2 = 0

                 hence .. Q/(d-x)^2 = q/d^2 ..(2)

From (1) and (2)

                               Q/ (d-x)^2 = Q/ 2x^2

        2x^2 = (d-x)^2

        root2.x = d-x

x(1+root2) = d

x = d / ( 1+root2)

putting value of x in any of the above ..u'll get the value of Q.

 

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On solving ...charge required = -2q / ( 3 + 2root2)

@ sid ..i think u r rong here ..forces are to be balanced on A and B ...and not C.




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