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A converging lens of focal length fcon and a diverging mirror of focal length fdiv are placed at a seperation of d.Then what is the focal length of the combination.Note one is lens and the other is mirror.

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No dont try summming up the powers it wont work here. Here u shud take out images for each case and then proceed basically apply lens and mirror formula repeatedky to get the answer......tooo bad no shortcuts!!!
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I am not stating about the powers here.I am not talking about any shortcut.I know there are many numericals based on 'focal length of the combination' but this is a unique one.I have tried applying the basic formulas but at last two variables are remaining which does not give the correct answer.

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What variables r remaining u have everything there is no irect formula!!!

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Hi IITIAN007 its a ques based on a very simple concept :Rays emerging from an object at the focus of the combination would appear to diverge from the radius of curvature of the diverging mirror.
Hence applying 1/v-1/u=1/f  for the lens
1/(2fdiv+d) -1/u=1/fcon
Since the image will b formed to the right of the diverging mirror at R=2fdiv from the mirrors pole , wrt to the lens it will b at distance R+d
=> on solving u=fcon*(2fdiv+d)/(fcon-(2fdiv+d))
 
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If d>fcon then parallel rays converge due to the lens at a point before they reach the mirror. In this case the focal length of the system is fcon .

If d<fcon
For parallel rays striking the lens they converge at focus. Hence for the mirror,
u = -(fcon - d)       (A virtual object)
Applying the mirror formula,
1/v + 1/(fcon - d)  = -1/fdiv
v = - [(fcon - d) fdiv ] /(fcon + fdiv -d)
Distance from the optic centre of the lens
[(fcon - d) fdiv ] /(fcon + fdiv -d)  + d
= (fcon  fdiv  - (fcon + d)d)/(fcon + fdiv -d)




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