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find the max n min no of points, having rational coordinates, which can exist on the circle with centre (0, sqrroot2)????
    
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If radius is not given then maximum is infinite (No minimum)

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Let the point with rational co-ordinates be (x,y) . Let the radius of the circle be r.
 
x^2 + (y - sq. root 2 )^2 = r^2
i.e x^2 + y^2 + 2  - 2sqroot2 y = r^2
i.e x^2 / (2y) + y / 2 - sq.root 2 = r^2 / (2y)....eqn(1)
( I have divided both sides of the eqn. by y. So, I have taken the assumption that y is not equal to zero. I will later take the case when y = 0 )
 
Observe, the L.H.S of eqn.(1) consists of rational and irrational parts. The only irrational part is sqroot 2.  Therefore, r must also consist of rational & irrational parts with the irrational part being sq. root 2.
So, let r = a - sq.root 2 (where a > sq. root 2 )
Now, putting this value of r in eqn. (1), we have the following,
(x^2 + y^2)/ 2y - sq.root 2 = (a^2 + 2) / 2y - sq.root 2 a /y
 
Now, comparing the coefficients of rational & irrational parts,
x^2 + y^2  =  a^2 + 2 ........ eqn.(2)
a/y = 1 ........... eqn.(3)
Substituting a = y in eqn. (2), we have,
x^2 = 2 which means x is irrational which is a contradiction !! 
 
Now, when y = 0, from the first step of the problem, we have,
x^2 + 2 = r^2.
There can be such possible rational x.
So, for a given radius of the circle, the two possible points with rational co-rdinates can be ( sq. root { r^2 - 2 } , 0 ) & ( - sq. root { r^2 - 2 } , 0 ) provided
sq. root { r^2 - 2 } is rational.
 
I am pretty confident about my method. But plz point my mistakes, if any !!
 
 

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