sign up I login
 advanced
refer a friend - earn nickels!!

Ask & Discuss Questions with Community & Experts

Moderation Team
 90 chars left    advanced
Ask iit jee aieee pet cbse icse state board community Community Discussion Question: straight lines...
Forum Index -> Analytical Geometry like the article? email it to a friend.  
Author Message
vyppi (7)

Scorching goIITian

Olaaa!! Perrrfect answer. 1  [2 rates]

vyppi's Avatar

total posts: 205    
offline Offline

Find the equation of the line passing through the point (2,3) & making intercepts of length 2 units between the lines   y + 2x = 3


&        y + 2 x = 5




Do not follow where the path may lead. Go instead where there is no path and leave a trail.
    
isomniac (87)

Hot goIITian

Olaaa!! Perrrfect answer. 15  [21 rates]

isomniac's Avatar

total posts: 104    
offline Offline

assume a general line passing thru 2,3 with a unknown slope m


y-3=m(x-2)


now intersect it with 2 known lines get pts of intersection 


now the distance bw these pts will be 2


get the pts and ull hav the line 


try it if u dont get it ill solve it


 


 


 


 


 

 this reply: 5 points  (with Olaaa!! Perrrfect answer.   in 1 votes )   [?]
 
You have to be logged on to rate
  
vyppi (7)

Scorching goIITian

Olaaa!! Perrrfect answer. 1  [2 rates]

vyppi's Avatar

total posts: 205    
offline Offline
buddy its not so easy...u wont get the 2 pts....its an IIT[1991] ques.....try harder buddy.....by the way gud try...



Do not follow where the path may lead. Go instead where there is no path and leave a trail.
 this reply: 0 points  (with Olaaa!! Perrrfect answer.   in 0 votes )   [?]
 
You have to be logged on to rate
  
vyppi (7)

Scorching goIITian

Olaaa!! Perrrfect answer. 1  [2 rates]

vyppi's Avatar

total posts: 205    
offline Offline
cmon guys yaar ye mera doubt hai...plz clear it..



Do not follow where the path may lead. Go instead where there is no path and leave a trail.
 this reply: 0 points  (with Olaaa!! Perrrfect answer.   in 0 votes )   [?]
 
You have to be logged on to rate
  
hary (100)

Scorching goIITian

Olaaa!! Perrrfect answer. 18  [23 rates]

hary's Avatar

total posts: 242    
offline Offline

i think this is da sol but im not sure



see da given lines are parallel right and distance bet them is 2



n da line also makes itercept of 2 so da req line must be perpendicular to both lines so slope of req line is 1/2



passes through (2,3)



so da eq is x-2y+4=0



is it correct??


DONT AIM FOR PERFECTION JUST ACHIEVE IT
 this reply: 2 points  (with Olaaa!! Perrrfect answer.   in 1 votes )   [?]
 
You have to be logged on to rate
  
hary (100)

Scorching goIITian

Olaaa!! Perrrfect answer. 18  [23 rates]

hary's Avatar

total posts: 242    
offline Offline

is it correct???


DONT AIM FOR PERFECTION JUST ACHIEVE IT
 this reply: 0 points  (with Olaaa!! Perrrfect answer.   in 0 votes )   [?]
 
You have to be logged on to rate
  
vyppi (7)

Scorching goIITian

Olaaa!! Perrrfect answer. 1  [2 rates]

vyppi's Avatar

total posts: 205    
offline Offline
nahi yaar hary....who said that the distance b\w them is 2.....i mean there is a line(it may or may not be perpendicular)...(in this case it is not)..(it is slanting) and it is covering a distance of 2units b\w them...this is the interpretation of the ques...chalo ny ways atleast u tried..ill rate u



Do not follow where the path may lead. Go instead where there is no path and leave a trail.
 this reply: 0 points  (with Olaaa!! Perrrfect answer.   in 0 votes )   [?]
 
You have to be logged on to rate
  
allamraju (3415)

Blazing goIITian

Olaaa!! Perrrfect answer. 605  [800 rates]

allamraju's Avatar

total posts: 1014    
offline Offline
Let  k be the angle made by the line with x-axis.Draw a rough figure and observe



 


Tan-1(1/2) is the angle made by the perpendicular between the lines[since it's slope is 1/2],as the line makes an intercept of 2 units,perpendicular distance=2/rt5,hence the angle between perpendicular and given line is Tan-1(2).Hence,k=Tan-11/2+Tan-12=/2.So,it is a vertical line and it's eqn is x=2

MAKING A MISTAKE IS HUMAN BUT REPEATING IT IS IDIOTIC.
 this reply: 7 points  (with Olaaa!! Perrrfect answer.   in 2 votes )   [?]
 
You have to be logged on to rate
  
hary (100)

Scorching goIITian

Olaaa!! Perrrfect answer. 18  [23 rates]

hary's Avatar

total posts: 242    
offline Offline
@allamraju i didnt get ur sol can u b more clear

DONT AIM FOR PERFECTION JUST ACHIEVE IT
 this reply: 0 points  (with Olaaa!! Perrrfect answer.   in 0 votes )   [?]
 
You have to be logged on to rate
  
sriram.a (210)

Hot goIITian

Olaaa!! Perrrfect answer. 32  [57 rates]

sriram.a's Avatar

total posts: 152    
offline Offline
I got x=2 or y=3

<SRIRAM.A> on high way of IIT




 this reply: 5 points  (with Olaaa!! Perrrfect answer.   in 1 votes )   [?]
 
You have to be logged on to rate
  
sriram.a (210)

Hot goIITian

Olaaa!! Perrrfect answer. 32  [57 rates]

sriram.a's Avatar

total posts: 152    
offline Offline

plot the graph of y+2x=3&y+2x=5


From the equation its clear that distance between their X-coordinates&Y-cordinates is 2


the given distance is 2,so the line should be parallel to X-axis or Y-axis.


So,x-2=0 or y-3=0


Hope you got it


<SRIRAM.A> on high way of IIT




 this reply: 5 points  (with Olaaa!! Perrrfect answer.   in 1 votes )   [?]
 
You have to be logged on to rate
  
Greatdreams (3157)

Forum Expert Moderator

Olaaa!! Perrrfect answer. 599  [680 rates]

Greatdreams's Avatar

total posts: 600    
offline Offline

1 method of solving these type of problems :


Given straight lines : y + 2x  = 3 and y + 2x - 5 = 0


They pass through the point , (2,3)


r = - [ ax1 + by1 + c / (acos  + b sin   ]


where (x1 , y1) = 2,3


Hence r = - [ 2(2) + 1(3) - 3 / 2 cos + sin ]  = - ( 4 / 2 cos + sin )


Now its given that it makes an intercept of length 2 units , hence


r+2 = - [ 2(2) + 1(3) - 5 / 2 cos + sin ] = - ( 2 / 2 cos + sin )


Hence subtracting the two we get ,


r+2 - r = 2 = 2 / (2cos + sin )


Hence 2 cos + sin = 1


or 4 cos 2   = ( 1 - sin  ) 2


So 4(1 - sin ) (1 + sin ) - (1 - sin  ) 2 = 0


or (1 - sin  ) [ 4 (1 + sin ) - [ 1 - sin  ] = 0


Hence sin = - 3/5


Thus cos = 4/5


or sin = 1 and cos = 0


So two cases are ,


1.) x-2 / 4/5 = y-3 / (-3/5)


Hence , -3(x-2) = 4(y - 3)


or 4y + 3x = 18


2.) x-2/ 0 = y-3/1


or x-2/y-3 = 0


Hence x-2 = 0


Thus the 2 equations are ,


x = 2 and 4y + 3x = 18  ................ans


__________________________________________________________________________________________________________
From J.R.R. Tolkien's 'The Lord of the Rings':

All that is gold does not glitter
Not all who wander are lost
The old that is strong does not wither,
Deep roots are not reached by frost.
From ashes a fire shall be woken
From shadows a light shall spring
Renewed shall be blade that's broken
The crown less again shall be king.
 this reply: 20 points  (with Olaaa!! Perrrfect answer.   in 4 votes )   [?]
 
You have to be logged on to rate
  
allamraju (3415)

Blazing goIITian

Olaaa!! Perrrfect answer. 605  [800 rates]

allamraju's Avatar

total posts: 1014    
offline Offline
The ans given by sir is perfect.I forgot to find the other line which lies below whose angle with the X-axis is given by Tan-11/2-Tan-12=Tan-1(-3/4) and so,it's eqn. is 3x+4y=18.

MAKING A MISTAKE IS HUMAN BUT REPEATING IT IS IDIOTIC.
 this reply: 10 points  (with Olaaa!! Perrrfect answer.   in 2 votes )   [?]
 
You have to be logged on to rate
  
studyid (1659)

Blazing goIITian

Olaaa!! Perrrfect answer. 301  [378 rates]

studyid's Avatar

total posts: 965    
offline Offline

Aliter :


 


As in the figure , Let AC (the intercept) = 2 , and AB = the perpendicular distance =


 


Hence by pythagoras theorem , we get BC =


 


Also Let <ACB =


 


Hence


 


Now the slope of the line y + 2x = 3 is -2.


 


hence by the formula


 



 


Here


 


Hence


 


Solving we get


 


now the line passes through the point (2,3)


 


Hence we get the eqn of line as


 



 


So the line is 3x + 4y=18 and the other line has no slope as it is vertical and it is x = 2. ............ (Ans.)