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INTERESTING QUESTION ON THERMODYNAMICS
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BOYLE'S LAW ->
PV=CONSTANT --- (1)


CHARLE'S LAW->
V PROPORTIONAL TO T ----(2)


CHARLE'S LAW OF PESSURE->
P PROPORTIONAL TO T ---(3)


COMBINING (2) AND (3)
P/V= A CONSTANT


SO WHY
PV = CONSTANT

AND WHY NOT P/V = CONSTANT.


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Blazing goIITian

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6 Jan 2008 19:28:03 IST
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you dont conclude from 2 and 3 that
PV=constant or P/V is constant
its an experimental observation
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6 Jan 2008 20:23:57 IST
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ur question is wrong dear frnd.......
BOYLE'S LAW ->
PV=CONSTANT ---
"AT CONSTANT TEMPERATURE"

CHARLE'S LAW->
V PROPORTIONAL TO T ----
"AT CONSTANT PRESSURE"

CHARLE'S LAW OF PESSURE->
P PROPORTIONAL TO T ---
"AT CONSTANT VOLUME"


so u can never get anydng out of dese eqns.........as d cnditions are totally different......
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6 Jan 2008 20:31:56 IST
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Equation 2 is applicable when pressure is constant.

Equation 3 is applicable when volume is constant.

The conditions are different.

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6 Jan 2008 20:35:55 IST
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hey i agree wid svj29.........in no wez u can compare d eqns as they r in diff condns
so u can never add or sub or do ne such operations wid them

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6 Jan 2008 21:04:52 IST
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thanks
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7 Jan 2008 14:02:42 IST
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it's totally absurd the way you concluded it
actually P T when V is constant
V T when P is const
P/V =const only under different restriction  that  condition  is  V ^2 T
but PV= const when temp. is const.
you must have thought that on inc. t the p increases as well as v so p/v should be const
but don't forget the adiabatic compr. on compressing the gas t increases although V is decreasing and P is increasing



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