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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 20 Mar 2008 20:25:51 IST
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Edited: This may be a simple standard qn but im not gettin the final ans. An ideal gas is contained in a piston cylinder arrangement. Area of piston is A and its mass is M. The surrounding atm pressure is P0. Under equilbrium condition, volume of the gas is V0 . Find the angular frequency of small vertical oscillations of the piston assuming expansion and compression of the gas to be adiabatic. assume adiabatic constant = .
The ans is 

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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 20 Mar 2008 20:36:01 IST
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EDITED: sorry messed it up...pls refer my post some 3-4 posts below i think dF=dP*A dF=ma=-y*(P/Vo)Adv=-y*(P/Vo)(A)^2dx,P=Po+mg/a
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 20 Mar 2008 20:56:37 IST
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EDITED
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 20 Mar 2008 21:23:00 IST
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gokul i didnt understand how u got the relation could you please explain!!!
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Arey just see HC Verma example.
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 20 Mar 2008 22:00:12 IST
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I dont have HC Verma. u shud realise dat not all people have access to dat book. If u have it or happen to know it, y dont u post the soln??
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 20 Mar 2008 22:11:36 IST
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K man.. here it goes:
For adiabatic expansion: PV^gamma = C
Taking logs we get lnP + gammalnV = lnC which gives dp/P + gamma dv/V = 0
dp = -gammadvP/V
NOw since frequency is small we can assume P = Po + mg/A and V = Vo
maA = - gamma Adx (Po + mg/A)/Vo
Now we can find omega.
PS: Didnt see HC Verma :) but dont rate if u dont like whatsoever.
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 20 Mar 2008 22:32:48 IST
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im sorry i think i got wat u r sayon initially but i messed up the ans: gamma=y we can easily get dP=-y*(P/Vo)*dv dF=dP*A dF=ma=-y*(P/Vo)Adv=-y*(P/Vo)(A)^2dx,P=Po+mg/a a=-y*(P/Vo)(A)^2/m(dx) so we have a =to -w^2x w=root(y*(P/Vo)(A)^2/m) = root{y/Vo*(Po+mg/A)A^2/m}
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 20 Mar 2008 22:36:18 IST
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to prove 1st part of my ans: v no tht PV^y=c..jus diff thts all
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