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Here's a question which was thr in full test 5 , fiitjee's aits
 
[ -1][0 ] [ (x2 +2x) / { ln(x+1) } ]
 
m getting noway to solve this, help me out!!! the answer given is ln 3

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i think that we should use
ln(1+x)=x-x^2+x^3/3--------infinity
and
(1-x)^(-1)=1+x+x^2+x^3.............infinty x<1
and then try

think so!
i even used properties and
i got
i=integral 0 to 1 (x^2-1)/ln x
i also wanna know how to get the answer
experts plzzz help!!!



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hey I got it Look at the answere(Indefinite and then apply the limits yourself)
answere is 1/3*(x+1)^2*ln(x+1)-ln(x+1)

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hey it looks not defined for lower limit. are you sure of question as i am with the answere????????

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hey praveen it(ln(1+x)) is divided by and not multiplied as u have done



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First of all, hi mansi, how are you ?
 
Now, lets come to the business part
 
The question can be done as follows :
 
[ -1][0 ] [ x(x +1 +1) / { ln(x+1) } ]
 
[ -1][0 ] [ x(x +1) / { ln(x+1) } ]  + [ -1][0 ]  x / { ln(x+1) }
 
Now in both these parts, put t=x+1
 
So, x becomes t-1 and ln(x+1) can be substituted by et
 
Then use By parts and you'll have your answer.
 
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shakirshafi I have applied the same function boss. Look x^2+x and x+1 have a releavance. That has made my soolution easy

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Hey guys,first of all, dnt suggest a way for doing this, instead give the full solution, what hav u done, cuz i hav done evrything u hav all mentioned, but havnt got any answer, leav aside ln3, i hav given almost 1 hr to this, but havnt been successful!!!!
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hi aditya, m fyn, wat bout u???
well the question,..... ofcourse, u'll get a salute, but pls give me the full solution, cuz i hav done this, n later i got stuck!!! pls give the full solution, !!!

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hai multiply numerator and denominatior with 2 then 2ln(x+1)we get
 now let (x+1)2=et ans solve i got solu. like that but if  iam wrong plz say correct ans

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madhuri excellent, i was about to say the same thing

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hey madhuri, i wish if u cud post the solution here, cuz if we taking (x+1)^2= e^t, what we'll do for numerator????? pls post the solution!!!

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oh greatness, i was highly mistaken
this can never be integrated
mansi , you are right yaar

you have to run faster and faster so as to remain where you are.. even if you are on the right track you will get run over if you just keep sitting there...
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yeah aakriti, thats what m trying to say, its not getting integrated !!!

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et-1 is tyhe numerator  and dx value will be dt /et/2

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