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the net charge in a current carrying wire is 0 then why does a magnetic field exert force on it?
 
what is meant by this statement:"magnetic force is non central while electric force may or may not be?
 
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21 Dec 2007 17:58:25 IST
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its not the net charge we are concerned with. its the average drift velocity of the electrons. remember the basic formula F=q(vXB)
here q=-e.
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21 Dec 2007 19:59:39 IST
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As for the second Qn. see ( assuming that u know vector calculus)
 
curl E =- d/ dt ( B) ( partial diff)
 
If B is const. wrt time then curl E = 0 , which means possible soln of  E   may be central .
 
Again curl H = j ( unmodified ampere's law holding only for magnetostatics. )
 
Now u know that For H field to create statically , j must be non zero . Which means that a possible soln for H (and hence B) can't be a central one .
 
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22 Dec 2007 13:05:47 IST
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feynmann sorry i couldnot understand your soln although i have rate you as i had promised.can you be more explainative?  & pannaguma can the net charhe be zero in a current carrying wire
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22 Dec 2007 13:12:45 IST
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ok in simpler terms and most imp. where feynmann had left
a central which can be defined as something whose line integral around a closed loop is 0
the equivalent differential statement being vamsishing away of the curl of the function
but classically central forces originated from the fact that certain forces always tend to act towards a point.
for ex that by the sun on earth or earth on sun...
the always seem to originate froma point hence provide a fixxed angular momentum about that point
a even if u don't nderstand curl mathematically think about it intutively
the electric field lines say due to poit charge oriinate from it they don't 'curl' around it hemce have a non zero curl
But think of magnetic field lines they alway tend to curl but don't diverge from a point hence have their divergence 0
in integral form have 0 surface integral over any closed surface



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