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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 30 Mar 2008 16:50:05 IST
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A good question
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Let us learn to dream, gentlemen, and then perhaps we shall learn the truth.
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 30 Mar 2008 21:12:04 IST
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BUMP!
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Let us learn to dream, gentlemen, and then perhaps we shall learn the truth.
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 30 Mar 2008 21:19:58 IST
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Please write the question more clearly.
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 30 Mar 2008 21:20:46 IST
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Click on the picture and save it/open it.
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 30 Mar 2008 21:37:17 IST
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source of the question?
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"I a universe of atoms.......an atom in the universe" |
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 30 Mar 2008 21:45:56 IST
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Get the paper from www.aiceonline.in
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 30 Mar 2008 21:55:41 IST
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which question ............i cudn't find that question it wud be better if u post it here bro
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 30 Mar 2008 22:51:02 IST
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*edited*
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Be Strong Be Different. Just Be
    
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 31 Mar 2008 13:52:24 IST
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is the answer a) 2L/3V
velocity will not remain constant throughout as its a case of variable mass system, nd if you notice tht angular momentum will be conserved about lowest most point, as net torque is zero at this position, , now as question states neglecting, rolling resistance, etc, so no dissipative forces acting on system so energy of system must be conserved
the lowest most point of roll is point of pure rotation , so total energy can be given by( question also says to neglect PE of system) E= 1/2 * I*w^2 where I is MI about the point of pure rotation
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initial energy = 1/2 * 3/2 * M*R^2*w^2 = 3/4 * M*V^2, { rw=V} now energy at an instant when x length is unrolled.,
mass per unit length= M/L = k energy at this instant is 3/4 * (M- x*M/L)*v^2 equating these two we get
v^2 = (L/L-x) * V^2
v= sqrt(L/L-x)*V sqrt(L-x)*dx = Vsqrt(L)*dt
now integrate, as x varies from 0 to L , L-x varies from L to 0, on integrating you'll get t = 2L/3V
hope this is correct ;)
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 31 Mar 2008 14:26:29 IST
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Brilliant answer Nishant
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Will nip in at times to solve problems :)
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 31 Mar 2008 15:04:54 IST
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i have a doubt...u got v= sqrt(L/L-x)*V but when u put x=L we get final velocity to be infinity....but actually it must be zero... seems out of place....also how are u equating initial kinetic energy with final KE ???
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 31 Mar 2008 15:30:09 IST
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ok i got it...at the end of the rolling the last part of the hose is tugged with a huge force...so the velocity changes from an extremely large value to zero in a short time....great work nishant!! i didnt use work-KE theorem properly......there can be no force acting...so KE must be conserved...but i didnt conserve KE...i "conserved" *cough* velocity... lol... so once again congrats....good work..
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 31 Mar 2008 15:41:03 IST
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@karthik, rohit
thnx for acknowledging my efforts :)
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 31 Mar 2008 17:31:42 IST
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Awesome nishanth , I dont know the answer as answers are not given in that paper but it sure looks good.So no reason to doubt. :D 
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