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A right triangular wedge of mass rests on an absolutely smooth horizontal surface. A block with a mass is placed on the inclined surface of the wedge, the inclination being with the horizontal. This system is released from rest. Determine the velocity of the wedge when the block lowers vertically through a height . Assume that there is no friction between the wedge and the block.


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16 Dec 2008 17:16:51 IST
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I THINK IT IS AN EASY SUM  


FIRST WE KNOW THAT THE VEL OF THE BLOCK IS THE HORIZONTAL DIRECTION IS EQUAL


THATS THE EASY PART


V1COS@=V2


THE HARD PART MAYBE I AM WRONG IN THIS PART


MGH=1/2M(VSIN@)^2


THIS IS THE 2ND STEP SO THE WHOLE SUM CAN BE CALCULATED


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17 Dec 2008 10:13:43 IST
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I know how to solve it. What I want to know is, whether you guys can solve it. Anyway, what you suggested is entirely wrong (both the first part and the second part).

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conserving momentum in horizontal direction ,


Mv = m(ucos\alpha-v)


energy conservation,


mgh=\frac{Mv^2 }{2}+\frac{m({\sqrt{v^2+u^2 +2uvcos(\pi-\alpha) })}^2 }{2}


using the two equation, we can easily get 'v'


 


is it correct...................

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17 Dec 2008 10:40:10 IST
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Refer to last solved example in HC Verma...


 


Now, m desends by 'h' vertically, so, on the incline, it slips by h sin@


Now, from d example, we have  acc.m w,r,t, M   = 


 


So, time taken = (Sorry, forgot g)


 


Now, acceleration of wedge =


 


 


Hence, velocity = x


 



 


 


 


Please check if correct...

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17 Dec 2008 10:41:36 IST
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Looks like I have gone terribly wrong somewhere.... If that is the case... please correct....

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18 Dec 2008 20:10:02 IST
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sir what's the correct method,


pls reply.....................


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19 Dec 2008 21:21:06 IST
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 Let  be the acceleration of the incline and  be that of the block relative to the wedge. 

Suppose the normal reaction =  

so, we ghet the equations : 

.........1 

ma_{2} cos \alpha + mg sin \alpha = ma.....2 

N+ma_{2} sin \alpha = mg cos \alpha ....3 

solving this we get : 

a_{2} =  \frac{mg sin \alpha cos \alpha }{M + msin^{2} \alpha} 

a = \frac{gsin \alpha (m+M)}{M+msin^{2}  \alpha } 

now, by equating the time in both the cases we get : 

v_{wedge} = a_{2}\sqrt{\frac{2h}{asin \alpha}} 

So, we get the answer 

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i am getting something like...

root (2mgh (1-sin@) / M )



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