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a ball of mass 100g is projected vertically upwards from ground with vel. 49m/s.
at the same time another identical ball is dropped from a height of 98m to fall freely along the same path as that of the first.the two balls collide and stick together and fall to ground.find time of flight of masses?
 
ans:6.53s

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calculate the time taken by balls to collide i.e 2 seconds
keep it aside

now calculate distance at which they collide

then using the law of conservation of momentum, calculate the velocity of combined mass i.e 49/2

now calculate the time and distance it will travel with this velocity in upward direction

and then calculate time it takes to fall to ground

add all these times u will get the answer

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plz explain a bit more.don't show all the calculations just show all the steps which you used and all the equations.till time 2 second is alright then afterwards i'm not getting it.

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see when the 2 balls collide then due to their combined momentum, they do not stop but they attain a velocity that can be found out by
applying law of conservation of momentum i e

momentum bfore collision=momentum after collision
m.49+m.0=2m.v

therefore
v=49/2

it is in upward direction as it is + ve

with this velocity the body(combined mass) continues to move in upward direction till the time

0=49/2-9.8t

calculate t
and put it in in formula for s=ut+1/2at^2
u will get the distance now add this distance to the distance of collision from ground
and use the formula

t=root(2h/g)
add all times and u will get time of flight

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First calculate highest point reached by first ball
v^2 - u^2 = 2as
- 49^2 = 2 .-9.8 .s
122.5 m = s
 
1/2 g t^2 = 122.5 - ut + 1/2 g t^2 
t = 2.5 secs
 
v = u + at
so v1 = -24,  v2 = 25
m1v1 + m2v2 = 2mV
0.1*-24 + 0.1*25 = 2* 0.1*V
V = 0.5 ( of combined mass)
 
now in 2.5 secs the dist covered was
1/2 a t^2... for 2nd ball
1/2*10*(2.5)^2
31.25 m
 
So remaining distance from ground
= 98 - 31.25 m
= 66.75 m
 
66.75 = 0.5t + 1/2*10*t^2
5t^2 + 0.5t - 66.75 = 0
t =  -0.5 + sqrt(0.25 + 1335)  / 10
t = 3.6 seconds
This is the time taken for the combined mass to fall to the ground.
now u need to add the time taken by the balls to meet
around 2.5 ..  i used approximations with g
so t = 3.6 + 2.5 = 6.1 sec in this case

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here another sol..n u get the ans as 6.53 exact.
eqn fr motion of 1st ball:
s1=49t - (1/2 gt2);
fr 2nd ball:
s2=98 - (1/2 gt2);
 
solvin u gt tim of balls meetin as 2s.
height of balls meetin is =1/2 * 2 * g= 79.4m.
aftr this vel of the comb is half cuz mass has doubled(cons of momen) n this vel is upwards:
v1= 49 - 2g
v2= 2g;
resultant is 4.9 upwards. it takes 0.5 sec to com to rest.
height reached is now is 79.625m.
now this comb finally comes back to earth after 4.03 sec(usin frmula s=(1/2 g t2).
total time= 2+ 0.5+4.03=6.53s.

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n ya..i just checked..the sol before mine is wrong..

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netkid kindly tell me the three times you are getting

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2+2.5+2.03

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having problem in third time

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