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Q. A uniform bar of length l stands vertically touching a wall OA, when slightly displaced, its lower end begins to slide along the floor. obtain an expression for the angular velocity of the bar as a function of  . neglect friction everywhere.

[ D C PANDEY page 27, introductory exercise 9.5, problem 2 ]


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i think you are sick with ICR
 
any way here is the solution
 
from the concept of ICR
draw normals to Vx  Vy
the poc of normals is ICR
Y/X=tan@
diffn. wrt t
Vy =tan@ Vx
 
wx=Vy
wy=Vx
squaring both the eqns
wl=(Vx)sec@
w=(Vx/l)sec@
 
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the answer is not correct. the correct answer is  [ 3g/l * (1 -- sin ) ]



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let me try
the IAR of the system lies at L/2 from the mp of hypotenuse.
moment of inertia about IAR=ML2/3
conserving energy
change in p.e.=rotational energy
(Mgl/2)(1- sin@)=1/2 IA W2
W=SQ. ROOT 3g/l (1-sin@)
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The position of instantaneous axis of rotation should be (l/2 sin  , l/2 cos )

l/2 = x ( see in figure)

Now applying conservation of mechanical energy ,

Decrease in potential energy of the rod = increase in rotational energy about instantaneous axis of rotation

m g l/2 ( 1 - sin ) = 1/2 I  2

Now I = m l 2/ 12 + m x 2 = ml 2 / 12 + ml 2 /4 = ml 2 /3

So now putting the value of I ,
we have

mg l/2 ( 1 - sin ) = 1/2 ( m l 2/ 3 )

So 2 =  3g ( 1 - sin ) / l

So = 3g / l ( 1 - sin )

I think answer is as given by Ramyani didi .I hope thats a nishpap  solution.

Sorry for daring  to touch mechanics section even after guys like Anchitsaini being around.

D.C.Pandey seems to be a good book.But better books are available.


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please explain how u found out the co ordinates of IC.

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The position of instantaneous axis of rotation should be (l/2 sin  , l/2 cos )

plz explain

the co-ordinate of c.o.m is (
l/2 cos theta, l/2 sin theta )

i don't bother if the question is silly .

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@Ramyani - ICR is found by taking any two points, and by drawing perpendiculars to their velocity vectors. The point where the perpendiculars meet gives the ICR.

Will nip in at times to solve problems :)
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ooof ! I understand now !


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